Monster World RPG ver. 1.1 is out now ! ! !

[Monster World RPG]

I played the game up to the beginning of the 2nd chapter. I think it's a decent game but noticed that by now, I have standards even for fan-made games to which this project does not live up. Therefore I decided to stop it. Anyway, here are my expressions.
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My conclusion is, that the game is okay, but ultimately not for me.

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Thanks for your reply, but I believe you were too much in a hurry to review the game cause you have just played its tutorial...
Chapter 1 is literally one ... per cent of the whole game.

If now you are at least curious to continue to play I suggest you to watch some of the video from the youtube channel to make an idea about how big the game is and how all the flaws you had noticed so far are in truth just the natural limitations of an "introduction".

It is just complaining that Megaman has not all the power ups from the beginning.

Make me know.

[Ark_X]

I might consider it, but honestly, apart from the (imho) shaky balancing at the beginning, I fail to see how most of the things I mentioned should improve as the game goes on. As far as content goes, I was aware that I had only seen the tip of the iceberg (judging by the extensive lists for characters, enemies and sidequests in the journal).
The one thing that might change is the chattiness of the NPCs and if it does so, I would wonder why this can't be the same during this introduction.

Last but not least did I already delete my savefile, so I would have to start all over again, so there would be some additional motivation required. Maybe I fetch a peek into the later content in some LP and decide from there. And if all fails, just remember that not all players connect with all kinds of games, no matter how great they may be.

[Brian Griffin]

Hello this game contains illegal ressources so please put it down and not publish it. We dont want illegal fan games here.

[Caro]

Someone notified us because they found ripped ressources in your game. By german law, we must comply and delete any possible link to the download. Sorry for the inconvenience.

[AntonRpg]

i´d defidently try it. Looks super cute

[WattsApp]

Someone notified us because they found ripped ressources in your game. By german law, we must comply and delete any possible link to the download. Sorry for the inconvenience.

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It was not me!! (Just saying, because "Sabaku" told me to do it.)

I even downloaded and played it. Nice game. Ima sure you'll get the output you deserve in other communities.

[Monster World RPG]

I have to say I didn't know or even imagine German laws forbids the release of games which uses mixed resources from other games even if they are FREE and there's no form of earning from the for the aothors.
By the way, if the German law say this and if the problem is simply resolved by removing the link to the download source, I believe nobody have nothing to to worry or to apologize from nobody.

I believe those laws are too strict: we are talking about free fan gaming, nothing more. As I said, if that is the law, none of us can do anything against.

Regards.

[Sölf]

I have to say I didn't know or even imagine German laws forbids the release of games which uses mixed resources from other games even if they are FREE and there's no form of earning from the for the aothors.
By the way, if the German law say this and if the problem is simply resolved by removing the link to the download source, I believe nobody have nothing to to worry or to apologize from nobody.

I believe those laws are too strict: we are talking about free fan gaming, nothing more. As I said, if that is the law, none of us can do anything against.

Regards.

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The problem is, using resources from other games is basically a copyright infringement. Now I understand where you are coming from, you wouldn't really expect a big publisher going after a small indie game (we are not talking big games like the Metroid 2 remake, which was killed by Nintendo, but small ones that reach maybe a few dozends players). The problem is, it's still against the law. And some lawyers are basically jerks and target people like these in particular. And well, no matter what you say, if you release a game using resources from old SNES games, unless the publisher allowed for you to use said ressources, you loose and have to pay "damages".

So, yeah. Most of the time nothing happens. But if it happens, you are fucked. And in case of this forum, if a game contains ressources from comercial games, someone sees this and reports it to the moderators, they have to delete it. No one expects the moderators to know every game and to download every game and look at each indiviual set or sound whether or not it's original, an edit or stolen. But if someone reports it, well, they have to act and remove the downloadlink.

You are still allowed to post a thread and present your game to this community, we can stil discuss it (and, well, search on our own, ahem), but you are not allowed to directly link to it.

[Cuzco]

I guess that's also a problem of the then-and-now. Laws haven't changed that much, but the application has. When RPG-Maker was established in... about 15 years ago, there weren't any virtual console games etc. and the RPG Maker 2000 was not available for purchase in Europe. So everyone who used it, had to download it for free, because some Russian guy, Don Miguel, translated it and offered it for free download.

In these times my internet at home was at single-lane ISDN-speed (64 kBit/s) which meant that the download of the standard RTP took - I guess - 45 minutes to one hour. There was no Youtube and Google not the search engine of the choice. I guess I used "Metager". Vampire's Dawn was the first game I played and my first project I made myself was made from resources offered by RPG-Maker-Download pages or pixel them myself. A lot of them were ripped of the classic games like Chrono Trigger, Terranigma, etc. It was very common. No one had a problem with that. No one had even a problem with emulators and ROMs.

In 2009 the virtual console was established by Nintendo. And the old-games were re-released because of nostalgia and because of the fact that more and more people got rid of their old consoles due to the lack of CRT-screens and because there were more and more console generations in-between. I cannot connect my Super Nintendo Entertainment System to my TV, because the picture is outrageous and the input lag makes it impossible to play. So - of course I can use an emulator, but the video game industry discovered that they can milk the old games again - for a low price - but profitably. And HDMI-able mini versions of the old consoles with a best-of-choice of their games sell like hot cakes.

Thatwhy the companies have a commercial interest in their old games, which - I think - they didn't have 10 years before. And copyright will be applied like never before.

That's also a serious problem. You know about file-sharing-warning-lettes? This is a German speciality: In Germany lawyers can write to you a warning letter and ask for money for just the letter. And not 10 or 20 or 50 Euros, no... mostly about 500 to 1000 or even 3000 Euros (especially for brand cases - even if unintentional). For a single letter. Also the cautioned has to sign a "cease and desist declaration with penalty clause". If he uses a lawyer himself, he can leave out claims for compensation in a by his own defense lawyer modified cease and desist declaration with penalty clause. So this might be not that expensive. Of course this is moneymaking business and we have more than enough law offices who "defend" the companies in cases of copyright infringement. These lawyers also search cases for themselves. Although every idiot meanwhile knows that file-sharing is a 100% chance to gain such an expensive invoice, there are still enough trying it.

But of course many more cases exist: If you sell anything in eBay or if you use a photo for a homepage as if you don't own every right even it's Creative Commons. If you use a name for a local business which could be also in use by another local business... So a single ripped resource or MIDI is meanwhile a reason for not accepting a game.

I read that you started your game in 2005. I started also a game in 2003 and developed it with friends until 2007. But I would never publish it, because it contains some MIDIs from other games and resources from some other games. Like many projects did. But today it is absolutely out of the question. Then we didn't know the law case but now - everything has to be either self-made or at least the rights have been cleared. 10 years many and me believed that it was a legal grey area to use resources from old games which were not published anymore. Today it's clear. There are plenty of creative-commons-resources to use. But I don't have the time and fun to reintroduce legal resources in an old game which lies fallow for almost ten years and where I lost the interest. It's a shame, because you're game looks like a monster-boy-fan-game. According to the SEGA-logo I assume this is your intention.

But you have to understand the forum's staff. They have a risk of a warning letter with expense, if they leave the download link to your game unremoved. Because you are from outside Germany, you have nothing to fear. But the guy in the impressed has to pay for all this.

[Monster World RPG]

But you have to understand the forum's staff. They have a risk of a warning letter with expense, if they leave the download link to your game unremoved. Because you are from outside Germany, you have nothing to fear. But the guy in the impressed has to pay for all this.

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You were quite exhaustive in your explanation.
Maybe I explained bad myself.
Since when the admin explained me the problem I had nothing to complain and, to tell the truth, I hadn't nothing to complain even before that.
I'm perfectly ok with the download link being removed.
Regards

[Cuzco]

I'm sorry, I'm not very often reading here, because I've got only limited time, so I went down very fast. There was this guy who wrote that "illegal fan games" are undesirable in this forum. This is of course not the truth. Thatwhy I wanted just explain what's the matter - in not so harsh words. Because I do not doubt that this could be great game. You worked almost 12 years on it and it looks like a cool Monster-Boy-RPG.

But thanks to the almighty search engine everyone can find your game in the shallows of the internet within a minute.

So I wish you a successful release start.

All the best.

[Brian Griffin]

There was this guy who wrote that "illegal fan games" are undesirable in this forum. This is of course not the truth.

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No this is the truth. Noboby who has a forum wants to go to prison because foreign User wants to release a illegal fan game.

[Mordechaj]

And nobody does go to prison, they may be made to pay a hefty fine, worst(?) case.

The forum does have a certain policy regarding fan games and cases of copyright infringement in general, but that policy most certainly is not "we don't want illegal fan games here." For one part, because it is virtually impossible to make an RM2k(3) game without any copyright infringement whatsoever, and for the other, because you can put it more politely than that. OP is generously presenting a game they made using ripped ressources, not maliciously advertising a copy they pirated (arrrrrrr).

In any case, since OP has made clear they understand the situation, and since I think we can all agree that the forum staff does a rather amazing job at providing a platform for all kinds of games and complying with copyright claims, the discussion may turn back to the presentation of the game which for itself does not constitute copyright infringement. Neither does downloading and playing the game.