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Evanescence
01.09.2006, 17:04
dear ladies and gentleman,

welcome to our first official not-treaded-in-the-first-second-after-opening-thread in a foreign language !___!

in this thread it is not just a matter of courtesy to write in the English language, but merely a duty. :p to begin with, you can start telling us something about your relationship towards English in general (everything except passion is inacceptable! :p ) and specifically about your experiences at school/work/during holidays/whatever.

hopefully, this isn't going to be a second-rate thread in 1337. >__> nor it is a requirement to be the next shakespeare. just have a good time and keep your cursor close to the maybe best online dictionary available (http://dict.tu-chemnitz.de/) in cases of doubt and wonder. ^^

Maisaffe
01.09.2006, 17:52
ZOMG. I am an english advanced course customer (if it is right to write that so *clawthebeard) and i think that AE/BE rocks, but more rocks the "creolean" - also known as "pidgin". "Pidgin" is a mix made of two languages (e.g. German/ English). :A

I use mostly http://dict.cc for searching required vocabularies. :A
Well, who found all mistakes in my posting? http://www.multimediaxis.de/images/smilies/old/1/ugly.gif

If I am allowed to ask:
Which English do you use? AE, BE, Pidgin, sociolect or a real individual?

DennisHH
01.09.2006, 18:02
I think its a godd idea to open this thread.
This thread is a hope for all people who are still in school, like the english language and want to practise their english :A

Which movies you like to look in the english language?
Its giving a new perspective. I like Pirates of the Carribaen and KoQ in the english language. It's even more funny than in german :)

I hope everything I said was right :P

The Game
01.09.2006, 18:31
I DO need English and Italian, as long as I stay the mix of holiday bathmaster / housemaster. ;) I already liked it at school, however, my English and Italian already have been better there. :D But of course, I still know how to pretend this children - baddies from doing mad things. ...

I think about joining some free English lessons at university, would'nt definitely be something stupid.

CT
01.09.2006, 18:47
Exactly the kind of thread I was looking for. :D
Gott, fühle ich mich gerade bescheuert, in einem deutschen Forum einen Beitrag in Englisch zu verfassen. ^^

After finishing school in 2004 - I had English as an advanced level course (= Leistungskurs; my former teacher tended to call it like that in English) - I decided to take American Studies (Amerikanistik) as one of my subjects at university since I really like the language and did not know what to study anyway. >_>

English has always been a pretty boring subject for me. As I said, I really like the language itself, but most teachers and lecturers just do not seem to be able to create an entertaining atmosphere (even though I somehow enjoyed the Leistungskurs hours back in school because our teacher was really kind). And, honestly, most of the English and American literature you have to read in school and university is boring crap. :P

I usually try to use British English but since I have played so many American games, read so much American literature and watched a couple of Hollywood films in their original synchronisation, I tend to use American English orally.
As mentioned, I occasionally watch some movies in English, but usually, I prefer the German version. Especially because I rarely watch TV alone. ;)

[KC]Cunner
01.09.2006, 19:05
I've been to England for several times now. During my schooldays I "had" to go there to attend summer schools. In the end, the duty to go there turned out to be much more than that. It was fun almost every time. The best thin about that stuff was that during my first trip there (where I went with a friend from school) I took part in a contest and I won a two weeks lasting trip for the next year (and even better: another place). As for the fact that I went there on my own, I didn't have any other Germans to talk to and I was forced to approach other international students. In the end I ended up in a group of friends from Spain, Turkey, Russia and some others (long time ago). I never had that much fun in my holidays and most probably I learned most of my English there.
Moreover I had "Leistungskurs" in English and even though there were many others who have been to the US or UK for a year, the teacher almost thought I was the best. Be it as it may...
After school I had an internship near London, which was also great. Well the work definitely wasn't but there many young interns and we had much fun in the evening. And even the collegues from work went to town with us at night. Very different to Germany I think.

Due to my stays in the UK I always thought I would speak BE, but they told me it would be more AE. But I think in the end it is always a mixture. Most often I don't know how to spell certain words because of the differences...

In general I must admit I dislike "the British". Just sitting in a pub and being asked whether or not I'd like "to borrow" a girl is simply annoying. And couples that are doing really pr0n things in the public in addition drunken football fans is just not the way I like it. More like the last remaining "Ladies and Gentlemen". Hard to find, though...

CT is right with his German statement...just btw.

Edit:
oy yeah and watching movies is definitely better in English. Except for special ones like "Usual suspects" where I don't even understand a single word uttert by Fenster...

Evanescence
01.09.2006, 19:18
it's working! \o/ thank you so much for participating - I've waited so long for this to happen. ^.^


but more rocks the "creolean" - also known as "pidgin"
creole and pidgin are not exactly the same. ^^ the former is what people make up from two languages and is some kind of mix with a VERY simplified grammar, vocabulary and pronunciation. they just exist for communicative purposes so that people can somehow talk to each other, although they don't know the other language.

pidgins are quite more interesting. there you've got children which are born in a surrounding where creole is spoken. so they form it into a NEW language (a new mother tongue) with its own full functional grammar, vocabulary etc. - it sounds extremely weird to speakers of "real" English but it works 100%.


Which English do you use? AE, BE, Pidgin, sociolect or a real individual?
I usually try very hard to speak and write BE. it's quite a challenge. >__>

you need to force yourself to be silent at the end of words and to sound really bitchy arrogant. 8D but in my opinion it's far more elegant and HAS after all some kind of grammar.
remember: no matter what anyone might tell you... americans have not >__>

did I already mention that phonetics destroyed my life? well, it did... >___>


Which movies you like to look in the english language?
basically those ones which are worth watching in original. ;D usually dialogue is so flat it doesn't really reward itself. >__> (exception: cruel intentions http://www.multimediaxis.de/images/smilies/old/hell_yeah.gif )


And, honestly, most of the English and American literature you have to read in school and university is boring crap. :P
it depends on the point of view. :/ I really don't know how I am supposed to ever make it through that study if, in fact, everything bores me. thankfully enough this has yet to happen. ^^

maybe it's the language itself, but mostly everything which falls into my hands has something fascinating about it. o_o German literature on the other hand bores me TO DEATH. >__>"
if austen writes how she squeezes her main characters into the best places to make a good marriage than it is, though from today's point of view a little antiquated, a thousand times better than what goethe has ever done. o_o

Dhan
01.09.2006, 19:48
Terry Prattchet, lots of ^^
And I get every game and book and film in english if possible (if its not originally from Germany) or with english subtitles in the case of animees

(never been to england or another english-speakin land but used it a lil bit on student exchange in denmark uh... my guest-family knew german ^^)

I prefer AE for some reason except of some unnecessary details.

RPG-Man
01.09.2006, 20:04
I go at a Vocational school and we only have Englisch as subject one times a 45 minutes in the week but we can get the K.u.K (an Englischcertificate) at the next year. At the moment I want to improve my Englisch because i want to improve my chance for a job after the training .I haven't good experiences with the most englischteachers because in my opinion they are not a help for learning Englisch.

komischeskind
01.09.2006, 20:19
niceee !;)
oh yes that's what i need right now..you just so barely get the chance of speaking(or writing) english in school holiday..:)
as i really really like this beautiful language.i even happen to soliloquize in english now and then :D weird i know -but still: it's fun ! you should try that, too:D
but i must admit that the amount of my english vocabulary isn't too big yet, as i just finished 9th grade. but nevertheless i try to read and to watch movies in english as much as i can, as i learned a hell of a lot words and phrases that way!though i always need a dictionary or the german edition while reading an english book..but there's no better way of learning english, i guess.
by the way, i don't have a clue whether i use american or british english, though i definitely pronounce it the british way.but there's also the way of writing some words and the differences in the vocabulary.but i really think i tend to british english, as i really dislike the way the americans pronounce their english.i like to call that " humbled english" :D
anyway i'm on the rack how this great thread will go on!
yours faithfully
strangekid sounds good..i think i should start thinking about changing my nickname ;)

Aldinsys
01.09.2006, 20:30
Oh yeah,it´s awesome. An English thread. :eek:

My experiences with the english language aren´t the best due to the bad english teachers I have for the last years...

I prefer the British pronunciation to the American,because it seems to be some kind of more precious.

Jonas-Desirer
01.09.2006, 20:40
Oh yeah,it´s awesome. An English thread. :eek:

My experiences with the english language aren´t the best due to the bad english teachers I have for the last years...

I prefer the British pronunciation to the American,because it seems to be some kind of more precious.

I feel the Same!
This Thread is really Good,and I hope with him,get my English better,than I have a long Break,where I must to Speak English!
I Hope ich can speak it better,when School is begin really harder!
I speak English in my Holdiday in Sveden!
It was a Nice Holiday,and make me happy!

Ranmaru
01.09.2006, 23:16
I did an English advanced course for my Abitur (dude, is there an English word for that? We tend to call their graduation "graduation" as well, so I guess one germanism in an English text is fine with everyone … regarding the average number of anglicisms in German texts) as well with quite a satisfying result at the exam. I love learning languages in general, the more exotic the better; but English was quite a good start when I had my first contact with it in the third grade in elementary school.
I've never been to England or America actually. During tenth grade my English teacher was the mere incompetence in person who wasn't even able to spell simple words correctly. Once she insisted that the word "alcohol" is spelles "alcohool" and even when some of us tried to correct her, she kept saying "I studied English, I know better".
Anyway, I tried to hang on and watched a bunch of English films during that time and began to read English books. And if I hadn't done that I would probably not be able to speak English as I do now. It helped me a lot, especially to understand colloquial expressions and slang.

I like the language a lot even though I'm far from speaking it perfectly. So I just keep on watching films, reading books (just finished "Memoirs of a Geisha") and writing English stuff in order to improve my skills.

CT's quite right that it's weird to write English here, though I do quite often post in English forums. Feels different somehow. But I like it nonetheless … :D

Goddess
01.09.2006, 23:28
Greetings, Guys! :)

I'm trying to speak English now for nearly 20 years. And I like it indeed. I love watching movies and reading books in english. Of course I prefer playing english RPGs. ;)

Due to my friends it seems that I'm using American English most of the time, although I think that Americans are strange indeed. But British English just sounds kind of weird IMO.

What else... hm. I've never been to an english-speaking country, but it surely helps you out many times, when you're not able to use a foreign country language correctly. I also need English for my work, so I (hope) am improving still a little bit. :)

Ranmaru
02.09.2006, 00:11
Due to my friends it seems that I'm using American English most of the time, although I think that Americans are strange indeed. But British English just sounds kind of weird IMO.
I like it. But I prefer the American writing style, o instead of ou looks better, imo. Due to watchign American films and reading books written in American English, I tend to pronounce the words their way, too. Even though I try to speak Britsh sometimes. :D

Goddess
02.09.2006, 00:17
I like it. But I prefer the American writing style, o instead of ou looks better, imo. Due to watchign American films and reading books written in American English, I tend to pronounce the words their way, too. Even though I try to speak Britsh sometimes. :D
Yo, same as me. In school we learned British English, but I hated to write colour and favourite... yieks! I'm pronouncing the words either and neither also in an American way.

By the way, I'm impressed by your japanese thread! I wish I could read it. ;)

Ranmaru
02.09.2006, 00:25
By the way, I'm impressed by your japanese thread! I wish I could read it. ;)
You shouldn't, it's very basic Japanese and probably there a lots of mistakes as well. I'm studying the language for about a year now and that's most certainly how it sounds. Think of the first year after you started learning English and imagine you posting a thread with the skills you had then. Not too impressive, I guess.

Goddess
02.09.2006, 01:21
You shouldn't, it's very basic Japanese and probably there a lots of mistakes as well. I'm studying the language for about a year now and that's most certainly how it sounds. Think of the first year after you started learning English and imagine you posting a thread with the skills you had then. Not too impressive, I guess.
Hehe, sounds like you're hiding your light under a bushel. ;) Japanese is much more advanced, I guess, and at least you know some characters. I speak a little chinese and I know how annoying it can be to remember the characters... I know only a few, but at least I'm able to recognize which one is the toilette for women. :D

Hmm, I was 7 years old, when I started to learn English... I think your thread is richer in content then: hello, dog, cat, apple ;)

Fallen Angel
02.09.2006, 08:25
I've got a new favourite here *__* It's much easier to learn English while using it.


Well, I prefer BE because it's more elegant. We also learned AE but I never used it and I don't remember a lot.
My old teacher wasn't very good in English and the books were also very stupid. But now we've got a teacher who has studied English and the books are awesome *__* I hope my English will change for the better now.

To practice my (bad) English I watch DVD's in English. The Lord of the Rings is in original a thousand times better than in german, imo.


I would write more if I had more time but I have to tidy up my bedroom.

Jonas-Desirer
02.09.2006, 08:51
I have forgotten it:

Aki have right!
Movies are in English Thousand Times better than it whos in German!
I Like it to Watch the best Movies in Englisch,Lord of the Rings,Pirates of the Carriebean or most other Fantasy Movies!
Once I have reading an English Book,then it was the Lord of the Rings :)
I Hope with this English Threads are go my English better now! ._.

Trial
02.09.2006, 16:02
Well, I have been interested in this language since I was ten. I'm surely not an expert in the english language (compared to certain other individuals here >_>) and I have never been to Britain. The only english-speaking country I have been to is India and that was at a time when my knowledges in English weren't too extraordinary.

Hmmmm....I have the slight feeling that I'm going to read this a bit more frequently than other OT-threads.

Wischmop
02.09.2006, 16:36
Hm, yeah, watching movies in english is quite a good opportunity to improve your own language skills. (Damnit, it feels somehow fine to write in english after writing in japanese, btw thanks to Ranmaru for beginning the thread - I understood your posting very well, so I'm a little ashamed of my own -_- Nevermind.. yeah, back to topic!)

I haven't used my english skills actively since ... ahm, I don't know ... well, it's some time ago, especially writing english. Reading is another topic, you get used to reading a lot of english topics (for studies for example), but writing or active using. So I'm thankful for this thread where we can use our skills (and my quite poor english skills, please excuse my lack of knowledge in expressing myself)... yeah. :A

Diomedes
02.09.2006, 19:00
My english skills are very lowly, so please don't complain if it'll be hard to understand.;)

I'm intrested in learning this language since there was no way playing FFIV without english knowledge. So all i did was playing the game with a dictionary by my side, and by and by my skills improved far enough to communicate in this language. Can't say i'm really great, but at least other persons can just understand what i'm saying. As long as they're intrested in what i'm saying, of course.

I watched english movies, and read some english comic books, but that didn't really helped my improving my abilites. I'm terribly weak in expressing myself, but at least i'm able to understand what was written here. I count this as an success.


usually dialogue is so flat it doesn't really reward itself
Oh, you think so?
Isn't this right like normal people are talking? ;)


Movies are in English Thousand Times better than it whos in German!
Hm... not really. I guess I prefer german movies because i hate it to think about what they are saying instead of knowing it right away. But I admit that the most synchronisations gonna let me puke compared to the original. ;)

Knumonmaster
02.09.2006, 20:17
Well, I'm interested in English since I first started to learn it at elementary. Now I'm English advanced course student in the 12th grade. I very like this language and I very sympathise with english speaking countries. I was in the 9th grade for 2 weeks in the UK (South East Coast) and it was so wonderful that I decided to choose English advanced course though my marks were about C-D. lol
Well, 'cause I love this language that much I want to become English teacher. Especially I look for a opportunity to teach English (and German) language at Japanese schools or night schools sth like that.

Well, very good for raising the English skill is to read english books (with German translation, like some Shakespeare's) and watching English movies. But this is just sth for advanced anyway!

Mh, tea time lol
Knumon

Princess Aiu
02.09.2006, 20:28
hi ^^

I learned English in my school.
At first I didn"t like this language,because I prefered French,but this changed with the time.
Now,I have fun in learning and speaking english.

Nevertheless,I still have to learn a lot.

Boo2k
02.09.2006, 22:05
Its weird when you hear from your teacher that you´re like 13-15 points right now.... i honestly tought this will get hard in english but it seems that this advance course/regular course will both be a piece of cake... on the other hand ... when i look at the work of my classmates i can understand my ranking. We had to write a short story, of our own, in the last week. The other girls/boys wrote some story, wich were so bad that i tought i´m back in the 5th grade... like "july and tom was" or "they take us to the hotel and spoke with us"... i mean okay, my english isnt good... like "13-15 points"-good, but their english is that bad that i´m automaticly getting a push in grades :hehe:

weird

Ranmaru
02.09.2006, 22:06
I signed the contract for an apartment today, so I won't have to live in a student's dormitory where I have to share the bathroom with a bunch of others for another semester. After I changed my university, I was afraid that I wouldn't be able to find an apartment in time since I'll move to the last federal state that's not charging tuition fees, Rhineland-Palatinate, and there's a zillion of students going there. As for sure, there are not enough apartments or flats and the secretary told me that she expects that about 1000 student won't have a domicile when the semester starts.
So I just saved 500 euros that I now invested into a hot 40 square meters apartment. :A

Evanescence
03.09.2006, 00:25
Oh, you think so?
Isn't this right like normal people are talking? ;)
is shakespeare writing like the people of his time spoke? certainly not.

dialogue is in hollywood productions to great parts standardized. sometimes I can tell even from foregoing sentences how a spoken scene is going to end.
and often they are so stupid and heroic, you need to withstand the temptation to vommit right in front of your TV. furthermore, patriotism is an abnormally obtrusive subtheme of nearly every production. >__> in contrast to our own past it always seems a bit off.

by the way has anyone seen SEVEN (SIEBEN) a few minutes ago on pro sieben? well, it's not overwhelming but compared to others a fine piece and it has NO happy end. °_____°

Diomedes
03.09.2006, 01:30
is shakespeare writing like the people of his time spoke? certainly not.

How do you know?
Maybe some lords. :confused:


dialogue is in hollywood productions to great parts standardized
Of course. Everything needs an unmistakable mark to have success. ;)

patriotism is an abnormally obtrusive subtheme of nearly every production
Abnormally? Oh... I thought, this would be reality. ^^
And by the way, there are some american movies, that don't contain the army and the navy and this patriotic "real american" stuff. ;)


by the way has anyone seen SEVEN (SIEBEN) a few minutes ago on pro sieben? well, it's not overwhelming but compared to others a fine piece and it has NO happy end. °_____°
Watched "The perfect Storm" (Der Sturm) on RTL? Far more impressive and definitly no happy end. ;)
I missed watching SEVEN, but the description sounded boring to me anyway.


So I just saved 500 euros that I now invested into a hot 40 square meters apartment.
I envie you. Must be great having an own apartment and a own life, you don't have to share with anyone else. -_- Already moved there?

Fallen Angel
03.09.2006, 01:47
Hmmmm....I have the slight feeling that I'm going to read this a bit more frequently than other OT-threads. So do I. It's more impressive than the other Off-Topic-Threads because it's in English. You have to think contrary to the QFRAT for example. And it isn't as much off topic as the others because it's concerned with "Fernweh".

I signed the contract for an apartment today, so I won't have to live in a student's dormitory where I have to share the bathroom with a bunch of others for another semester. After I changed my university, I was afraid that I wouldn't be able to find an apartment in time since I'll move to the last federal state that's not charging tuition fees, Rhineland-Palatinate, and there's a zillion of students going there. As for sure, there are not enough apartments or flats and the secretary told me that she expects that about 1000 student won't have a domicile when the semester starts.
So I just saved 500 euros that I now invested into a hot 40 square meters apartment. :A You're such a lucky guy, you know? I want an apartment, too. But I couldn't pay it. I saw a nice apartement near my school for 300€ which would be good to live with a friend and I thought if I should take it, but it would be too expensive. I couldn't go on holiday or buy some little things like a CD or pay the bill for my mobile phone.

Well in three years I'll search one, too.

So, I'm going to go to bed. Good Night.

Moyaccercchi
03.09.2006, 08:34
Quotation of Evanescence
[...] by the way has anyone seen SEVEN (SIEBEN) a few minutes ago on pro sieben? well, it's not overwhelming but compared to others a fine piece and it has NO happy end. °_____°
I've seen it until they found the third victim...
Then I was too tired, so I didn't watch more.
(Was only one tense in these sentences right? :3schau )


Quotation of Diomedes
[...] Hm... not really. I guess I prefer german movies because i hate it to think about what they are saying instead of knowing it right away. But I admit that the most synchronisations gonna let me puke compared to the original. ;)
I hate it also, but I like watching movies first in english and then in german, because it's really funny to see, how different the story can be, if you don't understand anything... ^^

[KC]Cunner
03.09.2006, 09:11
@Ranmaru: that's the kind of flexibility which so many people around are lacking. Always complaining but not taking any further action. So that might be like a kind of reward...

@SEVEN: definitely a very good movie. On the one hand it has to be great because Kevin Spacey is in a way a main character. But apart from that, it's not just another patriot and standard criminal movie but has at least some kind of innovative plot. Well I must admit I saw the beginning and decided that I still remembered it too much and so I went to bed... sleeping is so wonderful.

@aki: I am just curious. Afaik you said you would start an apprenticeship now. But on the other hand you're always talking about school subjects...

So another day of writing that boring bachelor thesis. Some ****ass got all the books I need for that from the university's library. And even though he would have had to give them back by 27th of august he didn't return them. I guess they should raise the penalties...

Fallen Angel
03.09.2006, 09:53
@aki: I am just curious. Afaik you said you would start an apprenticeship now. But on the other hand you're always talking about school subjects...
Lol. In an apprenticeship you have to go to school, too. :D And at the moment I have 3 days school in a week. ^^ But that will change after fallholidays and I'll have two times a week school. On friday I've got a base rate for 7 weeks whereas 3 of them have past already and next week have the teachers advanced trainig on friday, so I have to go to work ^^

Good Morning btw.

Ranmaru
03.09.2006, 10:58
I envie you. Must be great having an own apartment and a own life, you don't have to share with anyone else. -_- Already moved there?
Gonna go in October. I have to live in the dormitory for another 4 weeks, but that's not too bad. My two room mates are okay, it's just too small. My room has 13 square meters and there's a kitchen with about 18 square meters for the three of us.
And after one year of room-sharing I'm so looking forward for an apartment on my own.


Cunner"]@Ranmaru: that's the kind of flexibility which so many people around are lacking. Always complaining but not taking any further action. So that might be like a kind of reward...
Oh, I like moving around so that's not a problem. New people, a new city and a new apartment. That's great everytime. :)

kate@net
05.09.2006, 17:03
If you want to learn English in Forums you have to go to an English speaking one. I know two or three which are quite nice, but it's realy hard to talk to them, if you can't speak more than a bit English. Because there you can't just use the GErman word, if you don't know the English word. But I think you already knew this...

[KC]Cunner
05.09.2006, 18:32
If you want to learn English in Forums you have to go to an English speaking one. I know two or three which are quite nice, but it's realy hard to talk to them, if you can't speak more than a bit English. Because there you can't just use the GErman word, if you don't know the English word. But I think you already knew this...
Well you're absolutely right ;). I think most of us know. Furthermore I think here are several guys who are also participating actively in English speaking forums. Because if you're looking for information about specific topics you will usually find any German forums.
Just a hint: use www.leo.org if you need a good translator/dictionary. It often even has examples with how to use the word correctly.

But on something else: at the moment I have to read pretty much english law texts. I've never encountered any texts that was so exhausting to read...

Vale
06.09.2006, 17:46
Cunner']Well you're absolutely right ;). I think most of us know. Furthermore I think here are several guys who are also participating actively in English speaking forums. Because if you're looking for information about specific topics you will usually find any German forums.
Just a hint: use www.leo.org if you need a good translator/dictionary. It often even has examples with how to use the word correctly.

But on something else: at the moment I have to read pretty much english law texts. I've never encountered any texts that was so exhausting to read...


Whee!!^^
My old englisch teacher at the "Realschule" gave us the same link, but i've forgot it. Thank you so much. ;D
@ law texts: Hm, have the english so many laws or is it just difficult to read?

Goddess
09.09.2006, 21:35
Speaking of tiring texts... did anybody of you try to read 'The Lord of the Rings'? Man, I really like the movies but the book was really too heavy for me. I dozed off several times during the first 100 pages. Then I quitted reading. I tried it once again in German, but the way Tolkien is writing makes me fuzzy. The author seems to love the detail, this may be nice sometimes, but... well... I just couldn't read it. ;)

By the way... I hate my work... -_-

Ranmaru
09.09.2006, 21:54
Since I can't stand fantasy fiction of any kind, I do not like Lord of the Rings. I read the first book and I wondered many times how many pages one can write just describing things I do not want to now about. And it's very heavy stuff indeed, the language isn't easy. I never tried it in German, though. The fact that "elves" had been translated with "Elben" is even for me as someone who doesn't like fantasy, absolutely terrible. Raping the German language …

Princess Aiu
09.09.2006, 22:00
Speaking of tiring texts... did anybody of you try to read 'The Lord of the Rings'? Man, I really like the movies but the book was really too heavy for me. I dozed off several times during the first 100 pages. Then I quitted reading. I tried it once again in German, but the way Tolkien is writing makes me fuzzy. The author seems to love the detail, this may be nice sometimes, but... well... I just couldn't read it. ;)

By the way... I hate my work... -_-

I know that. It is exact like with me.

I have also tried to read "The Lord of the Rings" in German, but somehow it bored me, ... It is already a while since I read it, perhaps I should try it again. ^^
I just don't like the style of Tolkiens writing.

But the movie was very nice and I liked to watch it.

netwarrior
10.09.2006, 13:54
Since I can't stand fantasy fiction of any kind, I do not like Lord of the Rings. I read the first book and I wondered many times how many pages one can write just describing things I do not want to now about. And it's very heavy stuff indeed, the language isn't easy. I never tried it in German, though. The fact that "elves" had been translated with "Elben" is even for me as someone who doesn't like fantasy, absolutely terrible. Raping the German language …
I know what you mean, it took me half a year to read this book because you need to take a rest between the lines to think about what was now going on in the story.

Tolkin wrote a lot of unnecessary stuff.
The reason was that people in former times couldn't go holiday in foreign countries anytime like nowadays, so British authors were used to write in their works every single detail of the landscape.
This style was common used to this time, think about it that Lords of the Ring was written around 1940-45, so Tolkin choose of course this style.

Well, this huge describtion of the world of Middle Earth and the hobbit family quarrels are annoying, and have mostly nothing to do with the plot, but after the first fithy pages you get used to it.
I wonder sometimes how the fellowship could be so easy going when they were in such a rush.

The book is hard to read in many cases but the story is more detailed than you could show in a nine hour triology, but the good thing is that the movie got more into details Tolkin just mentioned in his books, like the Uruk-Hai.

Omega
10.09.2006, 14:09
Its weird when you hear from your teacher that you´re like 13-15 points right now.... i honestly tought this will get hard in english but it seems that this advance course/regular course will both be a piece of cake... on the other hand ... when i look at the work of my classmates i can understand my ranking. We had to write a short story, of our own, in the last week. The other girls/boys wrote some story, wich were so bad that i tought i´m back in the 5th grade... like "july and tom was" or "they take us to the hotel and spoke with us"... i mean okay, my english isnt good... like "13-15 points"-good, but their english is that bad that i´m automaticly getting a push in grades :hehe:

weird

Word! Same here

I started "learning" english with my lovely RPGs and Animes, the games I used to buy in the United States helped a lot improving my english but i have still some problems with the grammar. actually i dont really know when to use which "time" so i often mess up everything.
and the japanese animes where helping also, because i get subbed animes from the internet, animes with english subtitle.
my english teacher warned me that it wouldn t be easy if I take the english leistungkurs in my school. like boo there are only idiots in my class so it wasnt that difficult to get 15 points.

I would appreciate it if someone would point out my mistakes in this post ^^

Diomedes
10.09.2006, 22:07
Why is everyone complaining about Tolkien?
I loved this book. I just read it in german, but still, this is right like fantasy should be. Like a big fairy tale, you need a few moths for. Many details, that helps you to imagine everything.
I admit that it is sometimes tiring, but you shouldn't rush reading a book of this size. Just take your time and enjoy the fantasy, that is the way to read fantasy stories. ;)


actually i dont really know when to use which "time" so i often mess up everything.

I know this. Acutally i trust my feelings, when to use which time or word. Doesn't work always, though.


there are only idiots in my class
In my class, the idiot is the teacher not the students. We had a listening comprehension last lessen, and she wrote down some words we might not know, and explained them. And "need" was one of those words. Maybe i'm wrong, but i guess that everyone should know this word to reach the 12th class. ;)

Ranmaru
10.09.2006, 22:15
Obviously nine out of ten English teachers are just incompetent. They claim to know which words are important for conversations and which are not and that's just plain bullshit. There is no "list of words you have to know" or vice versa.
Fortunately, my advanced course teacher was really great. He just talked to us, we read English books and watched English films, really great films like 2001: A Space Oddyssey, Dead Poet's Society or Pulp Fiction. He never gave us vocabularies, we just used dictionaries and fetched the words we needed. We wrote fictional stories in different styles of speech (eg. Business English, Old English, Modern English) and after a while we just wrote with our own styles. There was no problem writing slang language or bad words like "fuck" or "shit". We wrote short stories, novellas and so on and that was something that really helped us learning English. If I ever became an English teacher, that would be exactly the way I would teach. It was great.

CT
10.09.2006, 23:04
Gosh, I just thought about practising my French a little bit and posted some assumably weird stuff in our new French Talk Thread (http://www.multimediaxis.net/showthread.php?t=85673). Compared to writing English, it is actually really tough to get the same thing done in French. Especially because I stopped learning, reading and writing that shitty language more than four years ago. >_>

Nevertheless, I really appreciated this chance. I think I should speak more than two languages properly, so I should probably (re-)intensify my French and Latin practice. ^^

Ranmaru
10.09.2006, 23:15
Gosh, I just thought about practising my French a little bit and posted some assumably weird stuff in our new French Talk Thread (http://www.multimediaxis.net/showthread.php?t=85673). Compared to writing English, it is actually really tough to get the same thing done in French. Especially because I stopped learning, reading and writing that shitty language more than four years ago. >_>
I don't understand a word in French even though I learned it for five years. I don't know why but I was never in the mood to do any study for that language and so I just forgot everything. A shame, if you ask me now since I'd like to be as good in French as I'm in English.

By the way, it's hard for me to write in the Japanese Thread, too. Regarding the fact that I'm learning Japanese for only about a year now, I can speak it quite well even though my word pool is of course extremely narrow. To write it, however, is another story and quite hard. A standard posting in that thread takes thrice the time I need for a German or an English post, if not even more. My best friend's the dictionary in order to check if the characters I used are the right ones … nonetheless I like writing posts in Japanese since that's really a good excercise. :)

Virginie
11.09.2006, 12:35
Gosh, I just thought about practising my French a little bit and posted some assumably weird stuff in our new French Talk Thread (http://www.multimediaxis.net/showthread.php?t=85673). Compared to writing English, it is actually really tough to get the same thing done in French. Especially because I stopped learning, reading and writing that shitty language more than four years ago. >_>

Believe me, writing in French is even hard for me. :D
Since nearly every verb or adjective depends on the gender of the nouns in a phrase (and I always mix them up!) you will make far more mistakes in witten French than in spoken. Not to mention all the endings (declination anyone?) which are pronounced the same way o_O

But as my cousin in France had to learn German I noticed that German is even worse to learn :D We are just lucky that we didn't have to!

Ralph
11.09.2006, 14:40
I know some French guys who had to learn German ... - oh, that was hard! English is much easier to learn than most other languages as we hear, see (TV/movies) and read (internet) much English. Most foreign people can speak English pretty well, but those who have it as native language often can't speak more than 2 words in another language ... they often don't need that, though.

Goddess
11.09.2006, 18:21
@ Diomedes: And I still don't like Tolkien. I really appreciated to read Shakespeare, but Tolkien... well, you all know the story.

It was just a matter of time 'til some would open a French thread... shit. :D Although I understand most of the text when reading it, I don't understand a word when it is spoken. And additionally I just can't write a single French post. I really unlearned nearly all words and grammar as well. Sadly so.

I just hope nobody's going up to something. Although I'm moderator in this discussion forum, I really don't know all of the French swear-words. ;)

Cheerio!

Clean_Boy
11.09.2006, 21:56
Yeah ... ähm ... it's my first post in this topic ... my english is terrible but ok ...
I'm a old men and i like football ... >_>

Omega
11.09.2006, 22:29
Such a waste of time, I finished my homework a few minutes ago and what should I say about it? It is just ridiculous and laughable! It was a "What can u see on teh pretty picture?" "What do you think the comic wants to show us?" exercise (about South Africa and the Apartheid...uhh BORING). Am I in a Kindergarden? And the best thing: my English teacher (Miss Bölköw, it sounds even like someone who cant speak english) is making a lot of spelling mistakes? Is that a bad joke?



as ever I would appreciate it if someone would point out my mistakes in this post ^^ (not spelling mistakes xD)

Ranmaru
11.09.2006, 23:05
as ever I would appreciate it if someone would point out my mistakes in this post ^^ (not spelling mistakes xD)
As you wish …


It is just ridiculous and laughable!
"Ridiculous" and "laughable" are synonyms, so there's no need to mention both in one sentence. If you did it for a specific reason (eg. to point out the fact), just ignore my correction.


Am I in a Kindergarden?
Kindergarten is an uncountable noun, so it's "am I in kindergarten"; without the article.


And the best thing: my English teacher (Miss Bölköw, it sounds even like someone who cant speak english) is making a lot of spelling mistakes?
You should say "makes a lot of …" because the progressive form indicates that she is doing it right now. Well, it could be that she is making mistakes right now, but since you're writing about a general habit, you should use the present simple tense. The question mark is also weird.

That's what I found so far but it's no problem at all. One would mark these mistakes in an exam but everyone understands what you're saying, so stay frosty. ;)

Omega
12.09.2006, 18:08
You should say "makes a lot of …" because the progressive form indicates that she is doing it right now. Well, it could be that she is making mistakes right now, but since you're writing about a general habit, you should use the present simple tense. The question mark is also weird.

That's what I found so far but it's no problem at all. One would mark these mistakes in an exam but everyone understands what you're saying, so stay frosty. ;)

Ahh shit I was thinking about it "Should I write makes a lot or is making a lot" but now it makes sense and the question mark wasnt my intention ^^.

thx

feel free to point out my mistakes at anytime

Goddess
12.09.2006, 18:15
feel free to point out my mistakes at anytime
Muahahaha.... }:) I will.

Guess what?! Today I got a boost in pay. I knew it... one day I will get a Lambourghini Diablo. :D

Ranmaru
12.09.2006, 18:29
Guess what?! Today I got a boost in pay. I knew it... one day I will get a Lambourghini Diablo. :D
Same here. But for obvious reasons I will first buy a Porsche 911 in green. That's a nice way to go … from VW Polo to VW Golf (my current ride, so I'm halfway there!) to Posche 911 to Lamborghini Diablo. :D

Goddess
12.09.2006, 18:37
Same here. But for obvious reasons I will first buy a Porsche 911 in green. That's a nice way to go … from VW Polo to VW Golf (my current ride, so I'm halfway there!) to Posche 911 to Lamborghini Diablo. :D
In that case it will be: from Mazda 3 (current ride) to Audi Sportcabrio (or something familiar), follwed by Lamborghini Diablo... yellow of course. :D I just love those doors. :creepy:

Diomedes
13.09.2006, 21:03
Sorry but I can't figure out what may be so great in a Lamborghini Diablo. I'm just no big fan of this typical italian sports car design. Can't see a major difference to a Ferrari. Looks allmost the same. :confused:

I prefer something less expensive and more elegant. Something like a Mitsubishi 3000GT or a Nissan Skyline. Maybe a bit tiny, but that's ok. 8)

If it has to be a "usual" car, I would choose a Opel Astra or a Nissan 350 Z. Of course, in my current financial condition I would be happy about any car, even if it's already 20 years old. I just don't want to take this expenisve, noisy, gross smelling, unconfortable, time ignoring bus anymore. -_-

Omega
13.09.2006, 21:25
I am cursed thats for sure. I wish since my childhood for a BMW 3 as my first car and it IS possible to get it. A good girlfriend told me today that she would get the BMW from her brother, I was fucking shocked. She said a few months ago " This car is to big, I would never drive such a car" and now she is such a pain in the neck.. argh I could kill myself..I am so jealous :(

AAAAAAAND the english lession is still boring as ever, last time we should start a discussion of two groups who represent the blacks and the other group the apartheit freaks. I dindt take part in the discussion and it went like that:

"Why do we have to work so hard"
"Because you are black"
"Why do we get such bad jobs and education"
"Because your are black"
"But we are humans like your"
"Black humans dont have brains"
"Are you ACHTUNG DAS WURDE ECHT VON EINER SCHÜLERING GESAGT! angsty of us?"


Just like that a whole hour.. Pisa anyone?


NOW GO GODESS ^^ take my post apart! :D

Ranmaru
13.09.2006, 22:57
"Are you ACHTUNG DAS WURDE ECHT VON EINER SCHÜLERING GESAGT! angsty of us?"
Actually, the word "angst" does exist in the English language. It's one of the rare germanisms they adopted from us (like kindergarten oder rucksack). Its meaning however is slightly different from the German counterpart since "angst" in English doesn't mean just fear but more something like "to be scared halfway to death" … it therefore is a quite strong expression.
I've never heard an adjective made out of it, though.

DennisHH
15.09.2006, 23:16
Did someone play Breath of Fire III?
I Mean, the language is so simple, I think even in nursery school they would have no problems with this game.(Well, maybe because of FSK, and don't bcause of the language^^)To play games and watch movies in english is a really good donk bridge.^^
I mean: Learn more, get more.

Another topic^^
What do you think is meaned with"One Piece."Well, of course there is a german translation for it, but look, it can also mean Piece like part. I think its a trap :P


Cars topic:
Ferrari, is interesting but its more a car for people who want show you who is the boss.
Lamborghini is in my opinion the better Italian sport car. There is nothing..and suddenly disappears a yellow monster with a V12 engine:P

Porsche?

Holy Porscha...

Goddess
16.09.2006, 10:07
NOW GO GODESS ^^ take my post apart! :D
OK, and it is GODDESS. :p


I wish since my childhood for a BMW 3 as my first car...
I would say it this way: Since I was young, I wished for a BMW 3 as my first car to have.

@DennisHH: No, I never played any of the Breath of Fire Games. But now that you are mentioning it... I think it is kind of scary (yes, I MEAN scary) that games get a bad valuation because of English language... of course, small children can't understand it, but I think most people are older than ten years when playing RPGs (where the texts are really important). I mean I've learned English because of English games, so this should be an advantage not a barrier. It will kill no one if you have to look up some words in die dictionary.

I think the One Piece is a treasure, but a symbolic one. Maybe a book, a picture or something like that. I'm sure it's not gold or anything valuable.

DennisHH
16.09.2006, 16:53
I think the One Piece is a treasure, but a symbolic one. Maybe a book, a picture or something like that. I'm sure it's not gold or anything valuable.
I think also.
A big mystery is also, why Gold Roger died.
I mean, he was the greatest pirate on the One Piece world. There is a connection.
Maybe the One Piece is the perspective, to see that it's better to be not a pirate. After all the bad things he did, he saw that he's not satisfied. So, when you have the One Piece, you're not a pirate any more. And thats the cause why nobody has found the One Piece.
Because everybody is a pirate! And with the One Piece you can't be a pirate!
My first theory^^

Now the second!
Gold Roger was Mr.2(the gaylord:P)
He has changed his face and he invented the One Piece.^^

With friendy Greetings=WfG DennisHH

Ranmaru
16.09.2006, 18:09
I think also.
If you didn't, you would be braindead, wouldn't you? http://www.multimediaxis.de/images/smilies/old/s_057.gif

Regarding the Italian cars I think Ferrari is one of the least interesting brands that exist. It's not that I do not like them, I would drive them as well if I came across it, but I would rather by a Lamborghini. Dunno why, but for me it's the more enticing car.
I still can't figure out whether I prefer a Porsche to a Lamborghini or vice versa. But thinking of it I guess that Porsche's just my personal favorite. Nonetheless my "Must Have"-List ends with Lamborghini due to its price.

Seyken
28.09.2006, 13:59
If I am allowed to ask:
Which English do you use? AE, BE, Pidgin, sociolect or a real individual?
A mix outa AE and real individual...y know, a bit shortened 'n everything.. so don't wonder 'bout the bad gramma, k? :P

Well...nice idea to open this thread : O
*scratches his head* mhh....
ehm, well, I don't get the gist of ur actual topic so... ehm... yup....

What's the most stupid thing u ever said in english (no pidgin :P)?

uhm.. yes.. *runs away giggling and throws bottles with pumpkin juice everywhere* marry chrismas!

robx
03.10.2006, 21:00
i'm at this time in england, because of an school-exchange between hamburg and london.

it's very funny to visit the girls-school for one week, because their uniform includes a short skirt. :D
the following week i'll visit the boys-school

but seriously, the city is very beautiful, if it's not raining

CT
04.10.2006, 22:39
but seriously, the city is very beautiful, if it's not raining
It always rains in London. Well, at least it is always very foggy. (If there is anything we have learned from Edgar Wallace movies, it is the fact that the streets in London are basically impassable at night due to the absurd amount of misty fog that covers the pavement. And that every Kinski movie is an instant classic, of course. :D)

Anyway, does anyone know what Pro-Seminar (http://univis.uni-frankfurt.de/form?__s=2&dsc=anew/tlecture&tdir=lehrve_9/anglis/amerik&anonymous=1&ref=tlecture&sem=2006w&__e=425) I should take in the upcoming semester? I do not need to take an Einführungsveranstaltung, so I am pretty much free to choose the branch, but all those courses sound amazingly boring. >_>

Mister Brightside
05.10.2006, 12:05
There are no boring courses.

Gonzo
05.10.2006, 16:20
Main points I and II sound pretty interessting. I would choose point number I (Literatur und Literaturwissenschaft) because I'm interessted in american literature. And cause I'm a little fan of the american history (I don't know why...) I would choose american history and society, too.

But basically it's your decision...

Mister Brightside
05.10.2006, 16:43
And cause I'm a little fan of the american history (I don't know why...)

Maybe because you don't need to remember too many things? ^^

Wonderwanda
05.10.2006, 16:46
Literature. At least the literature-courses are the only ones I really enjoy participating in. It's not as hella boring as linguistics and -well- history isn't my thing. If it's yours, choose that one.

But, just so you know, literature-courses aren't all about reading hundreds of pages everyday. You don't necessarily read more than in any other course because you learn a lot about the theory (interpretation, historical background, genres...) -- the "Einführungskurse" with their tutorials are much more strenuous.

I chose "English Linguistics", "Introduction to American/English Literature" and "Introduction to English drama" for my studies. The first two are Einführungskurse (and I have an Einführungskurs for German studies as well, "Neuere Literaturwissenschaft") and they really take my time. The last one is a Proseminar I and I really enjoy it. Laziness prevails!

Gonzo
05.10.2006, 16:50
Maybe because you don't need to remember too many things? ^^
How do you mean that? o.Ô

Hm, maybe because of the civil war. That wasn't a fight for oil, money or power but for human rights like freedom in first case. I don't have in mind the things that stands behind this motivations.

Mister Brightside
06.10.2006, 05:24
How do you mean that? o.Ô

Hm, maybe because of the civil war. That wasn't a fight for oil, money or power but for human rights like freedom in first case. I don't have in mind the things that stands behind this motivations.

Well, American history is kind of short, because the USA are pretty young. That's why I said you wouldn't have to remember too many things. It was not an incredibly funny joke though, I know.

To declare the civil war generally as a fight for human rights is somehow strange, because it was not all about that. In the first case, I guess, it was all about might... In my opinion it was a struggle for influence on the new states joining the USA in the wild west. It was not merely about slaving, but making all new states slave-free was an open declaration of northern supremacy. That was something the southern states could not tolerate.

Concernig my statement I have to say, that one may have a lot to memorize in american history just because it is a young history. In American history we know more details than in f.e. Phrygian history. You may have to know which division was led by who on what day of what battle in the civil war. Although I find history passionate and exciting it was at that point I quitted the course completely. There is nothing more boring than abstract categorisation.

Last thing to note: if you don't share my opinion on the afore mentioned points let's have an argument about it. I guess people wouldn't want us to discuss here, but we could open an english 'anglo-historic thread'.
Guess I'm dreaming again...

Gonzo
06.10.2006, 16:34
In my opinion it was a struggle for influence on the new states joining the USA in the wild west. It was not merely about slaving, but making all new states slave-free was an open declaration of northern supremacy. That was something the southern states could not tolerate.
And because ot that it was a war for human rights. Making the southern states slave-free, that's fighting for freedom.

You're right, the American history is pretty young compared to our european. So their history is shorter then many other. ;)


Last thing to note: if you don't share my opinion on the afore mentioned points let's have an argument about it. I guess people wouldn't want us to discuss here, but we could open an english 'anglo-historic thread'.
Guess I'm dreaming again...
Hm, i guess my english-skills aren't good enough to argue at a high level. T_T

Jinjukei
15.10.2006, 15:33
OT:
Ahhh, got a question. What's if smeone ask you (in real life) "how are you?" an the beginning of the conversation. Is it the companion piece to "Wie geht's?" in german? So it's a rhetorical question?
pls reply fast :X

CT
15.10.2006, 16:55
Yes, it is. Even more than in German. Just reply with the same expression ("how are you") and never ever answer the question itself.

Jinjukei
15.10.2006, 18:53
Ok, thank you Mr. CT :X Sometimes i replied the question but never knew how to do it exactly ... http://www.multimediaxis.de/images/smilies/old/s_010.gif But whatever, now it make sense ...

Krelian
16.10.2006, 17:45
Yes, it is. Even more than in German. Just reply with the same expression ("how are you") and never ever answer the question itself.
Are you sure you're not confusing the phrase with "How do you do"?. As far as I know, answering "how are you" with the exact same expression is not costumary. Instead, just say "fine" or "good" or something similar. Of course you can still answer in return after that, e.g.:
"How are you?"
"I'm fine. How are you?"

"How do you do" though is never to be answered with anything else than "how do you do". It's also mostly used in the business sector, when you meet someone for the first time.

CT
16.10.2006, 18:20
Well, of course it is up to you to optionally answer "how are you?" with something like "fine", "good" etc. But it is also quite important to reply with "how are you?", since it would be very impolite if you did not. And, honestly, no one really wants to know about your mood and health; unless it is a friend or relative who asks this, the question is almost always rhetorical.

"How do you do?" is basically the same question as "How are you?". It might be even more superficial, though.

Krelian
16.10.2006, 19:04
I agree that it's usually not about how you really are. You're not supposed to answer in great detail how your life has been since the last time you met the person asking the question. That's why I said a common response would be "fine". However, you're wrong in saying that it's the same as "how do you do". It is absolutely not! You say "how do you do" once, and only once you meet a person for the first time. But it's going out of fashion to use that expression at all, according to my former (British native) English teacher.

As to whether or not to reply with "how are you", I'm not sure about that, but you're probably right that it would be impolite not to do it.

Ianus
02.11.2006, 14:33
This being an OT-Thread anyway, may I insert some completely unrelated questions? I'm currently in the process of translating a text into her majesties english and I find that I can not make neihter head nore tails of two sentences loaded with figurative speech. The first one is:

"Der Kerl schwimmt auf der Welle oben."

and the other one would be:

"Einer wie der andere, Idioten, eure Pfeiffenköpfe sind wohl zu Erbsen zusammengeschrupft!"

Could anybody of you gentleman suggest an appropriate english equivalent for these rather coarse exclamations?

CT
02.11.2006, 15:26
I do not even understand the German version of these expressions. @_@

Ianus
02.11.2006, 15:45
I wonder how you came to post in a german forum then.

CT
02.11.2006, 15:56
Well, obviously, I do understand the individual words (even those which you misspelled) but I just do not get the meaning of those expressions, you know. They just do not make sense, actually; at least the second one. So it is basically impossible for me to translate them properly.

Ianus
02.11.2006, 16:25
Well, if it's of any help to you: The first one means that the speaker considers the status of the person he is talking about to be gained by a stroke of luck and hints that his fortune will change very soon resulting in "everything coming down upon him" at the most unexpected time.

The second sentence is just a string of swearwords, "Pfeiffenkopf" being a close equivalent to "Airhead". What I can't make sense of is the "Erbsen" part. I think these were meant to attack their sexuality before they got translated into german as "Pfeiffenkopf" includes a hint at air flowing through something along with the hollowness and a shrinkage happening because of the change in temperature.

Virginie
03.11.2006, 14:41
Huh? Why sexuality? I thought it means something like "your brains shrank to/on (don't know the preposition here) the size of a pea." But unfortunately I don't know any English idiom for that.

Ianus
03.11.2006, 15:46
Huh? Why sexuality? I thought it means something like "your brains shrank to/on (don't know the preposition here) the size of a pea." But unfortunately I don't know any English idiom for that. I think I'll go with:

IDIOTS, ONE LIKE THE OTHER. YOUR BRAINS OBVIOUSLY SHRANK TO THE SIZE OF PEAS.

then. It's not perfect but I think it will work well enough, thank you.

vanillaKitten
04.11.2006, 23:04
well, as this seems to be settled I'd like to introduce some other matter I'm really curious about:

what kind of english do you [try to] speak?
I mean, every non-native speaker sooner or later just has to adopt a certain pronounciation - like american, australian, british or something yet different [I especially like listening to the jamaican slang, patois ^^]

personally, my english is as british as it could be~ well of course it's not perfect, but still it's quite distinctive. I'd really love to spend some months in south-east england to perfect my pronounciation ^^

so what about you?

Gonzo
05.11.2006, 10:25
I try to use mostly american english because it doesn't sound so cocky. ^_^
Well, I would like to speak more canadian english but I don't know any source where I could learn or hear this kind of english. If you find any source, please let me know that. ;)

Kima
06.11.2006, 15:36
Uh, this thread seems to be one of the few (for me) new things that are actually interesting. It's a delight to read it. :)

So, uhm, yeah. Just to contribute something else:

what kind of english do you [try to] speak?
Mostly American, simply due to media influence.

Krelian
06.11.2006, 19:30
so what about you?
I guess my pronunciation is very much American. Of course I know it's not 100% pure American, and I'm not sure it'll ever be either. I tried once to adopt British pronuncation, but due to the increased influence of American English, some AE-speaking people I know and the fact that (to me) it's easier to adopt, I decided to go for AE instead. My spelling and some words or phrases are still BE, though. Perhaps I'll change that too in the future...


Well, I would like to speak more canadian english but I don't know any source where I could learn or hear this kind of english. If you find any source, please let me know that. ;)
Try looking for some CE speaking people and simply talk to them. It shouldn't be that hard to find someone who's willing to talk to you via Skype or something similar. Maybe you can find someone who wants to improve their German or something :)

Virginie
07.11.2006, 11:37
what kind of english do you [try to] speak?

[try to] is really the right expression.
Actually I prefer BE since it sounds much better (IMO) than AE - which is so often mumbled and... brrr. Well, I don't like it. Unfortunately I am far from being good at TEH REAL Oxford English. Sometimes I am watching BBC so that I can listen to it ^_^

But as I am working at an international society with headquaters in the US I often switch over to AE (e. g. while being on the phone) or even mix both up.

Ianus
07.11.2006, 19:06
what kind of english do you [try to] speak?
None, I've been using the language exclusively for writing and reading for years now, and I don't see that changing in the near future.

garak
11.11.2006, 10:41
even though i consider british english to be the oral climax among all english verbalizations, i have to admit that it does prove quite difficult to utilize it in most scenarios - unless you are fortunate enough to be able to communicate with either british citizens or british talking people on a regular basis.
consequently, i automatically use american english in most situations for i most certainly am talking to an american friend of mine, since i dont know any british people i can actually converse with.
on the other hand, i have to constate that i couldnt imagine not using american slang when engaging mere small talk.
so basically, i prefer the kind of english that is most appropiate at that very moment.

Schatteп
25.11.2006, 21:06
Well, there is a thread for writing english; but were is the thread to write Black-Metal-English? xD
Rah I wanted just to you know let where I come from.. Hailing from Grimmm norway!


on the other hand, i have to constate that i couldnt imagine not using american slang when engaging mere small talk.

Could be my words.

Is there any topic at the moment?
I'm just too lazy to read all the posts.. Right? o.O

Phoenix
27.11.2006, 13:42
I remember doing the time warp.

Ianus
29.11.2006, 12:47
I remember doing the time warp.
Was that before or after darkness had hit you and you entered another dimension?

Phoenix
29.11.2006, 18:17
Was that before or after darkness had hit you and you entered another dimension?
Right after I entered a dimension of absolute pleasure.

Schatteп
29.11.2006, 18:49
Right after I entered a dimension of absolute pleasure.

Mary Jane?

Phoenix
29.11.2006, 19:41
Mary Jane?
You may call me Riff-Raff.

Schatteп
02.12.2006, 18:54
You may call me Riff-Raff.

I will, sir. o_o

Goddess
04.12.2006, 16:55
Is there a topic? Anywhere? Hmm... nope, can't find any. Sooooo...

The time before X-mas sucks. :\ Weird people are running around stores (without any plan, it seems), buying presents, drinking "Glühwein" and they are getting on my nerves. I just want to buy butter and a piece of bread, but I just drown in the masses. Terrible, I tell you. I should start buying my food in the net... :p

But I'm happy that I don't have to visit ANY relatives during the holidays. Now that's vacation! :D

Lonegunman81
04.12.2006, 18:13
This Thread is kind´a weird, but now i can finally try some goo´old quite surely wrong written ´-thing combinations, like o´rly or Ol´Fred!
Yay!

PS: Haven´t been around for quite some time, where to put out my sig these days??

Trial
06.12.2006, 16:08
The time before X-mas sucks. :\ Weird people are running around stores (without any plan, it seems), buying presents, drinking "Glühwein" and they are getting on my nerves. I just want to buy butter and a piece of bread, but I just drown in the masses. Terrible, I tell you. I should start buying my food in the net... :p


He, don't you just LOVE weird people running around without any obvious plan or concept *_*?

Anyway, i would strongly encourage you to buy your daily goods in the outer parts of town. The inner city is always crowded at this time of the year and becomes a real madhouse. :p
In Karlsruhe, you're literally unable to cross certain parts of town at this time of the year. It's all about evolution, survival of the strongest. >:D

Schatteп
06.12.2006, 20:25
In Karlsruhe, you're literally unable to cross certain parts of town at this time of the year. It's all about evolution, survival of the strongest. >:D

The strongest is the one who's staying at home, denying all this christmas-chaos. xD
And - for sure - the little children are the weakest. They always go down in the masses.
The best reason to write in this thread, is indeed to write off your flash after some good dose of marjiuana. ^.^

Let's find out if it's even one of those rarely seen threads where you can double-post; so.. xD
What about gifts? Do you buy or make them, if you wish to get one for a friend/Family/etc?
Well, I don't like christmas, so I decided that I won't make gifts on christmas - If I got the need to see a surprised face of a friend I do it through the year.
In my eyes, this seems to be worth more than on typical giving-days, or howevertf it's called. =)

Freya Sarijas
27.12.2006, 13:22
Yes, you're right. We should show our friends an dadults every day how much we like them. But I don't think that we couldn't celebrate a celebration about our affection to each other because this. And in fact nobody really shows his friends and his family how much he likes them like he would in christmastime. And I think you don't do it too. In fact nobody helps strangers. In christmastime some people do. Christmas can be very excessive, thats right. But christmas isn't that bad like many people say, when you celebrate it in the right way: only for it's meaning. Without any force.

rgb
01.01.2007, 11:56
Hi folks.
I need english for my Job, because I'm working in a Shipping Company, and our bosses are from Taiwan and don't speak german :eek:.
But I also like the english language, because it's a very easy language, compared to german (don't misunderstand me, i'm also good in german :D) and other languages, and for me it's fun to learn a language and talk to people from other countries.

Beside my Job, I need english for programming, a lot of tutorials are written in english. And for english subbed Anime;).

I was in England for 2 weeks on a... you can call it language journey... with a lot of other young peple, and we visited England, but also learned from English teachers. But that was a long time ago.

English today:
I think, today english is a very important language to learn, and everybody who has the chance to learn that language should do this, because we are going to become more and more a multicultural country.

Evanescence
02.01.2007, 16:09
what have you been doing to this thread? Ò__ó need some real topic, I guess. >__>

the damn tags are malfunctioning again. *shoots some templates*


I was in England for 2 weeks on a... you can call it language journey... with a lot of other young peple, and we visited England, but also learned from English teachers. But that was a long time ago.
the same applies to me. it was back in 1999 and it was for 10 days or so. at that time it wasn't really helpful to improve your English skills, but it was rather considered some kind of status symbol like "you have to be there to be someone Ò__ó" or something. >__> eventually, my parents paid it, so I guess it was alright then. :p there were some interesting places in and around London I would like to see again sometime. well, my semester abroad is still due. §happy

and to come up with some real topic:
what have you been doing during holidays? had a good time or was it rather horrible to spend time with your family? :p

komischeskind
04.01.2007, 17:34
as i haven't spent much time with my parents so far, it was a good time ;) no really i was barely at home..though i live in a - well -" kaff " there where enough opportunities for me to disappear from their sight, get out and go to the city or somthin' with some of my friends...but i guess the most time i spent with my boyfriend and his mates...and now i'm outta here got to get ready :D keep on having nice / not so nice holiday! 8)

Schafi
07.01.2007, 12:12
and to come up with some real topic:
what have you been doing during holidays? had a good time or was it rather horrible to spend time with your family? :p
Well, it was great, but I wasn't able to spend much time with my family XD
I had a lot to do, my report about the "Deutsche Herbst" and good old Schleyer has to be finished, then I had some driving lessons (yay) and spent a lot of time with my friends. And the most important thing... I bought my ticket to Japan :D In June I'm going to spend over a whole month in Tokyo. It's gonna be great.

Well... I was asking myself... how where people able to improve their English without the internet? O_o Honestly, I wouldn't be able to speak and especially write like this just with the English I learned at school. What about you? Is that such a strange tought...? ^^''

Raem
13.01.2007, 22:37
Hi.

Uh, I Don`t have any Idea where I could start ...

I went to America for three Times now - one Time to San Francisco (A Greeaat city, i had to make my examination 'bout it), one time to New York (An even greater city, and such big), and, finally, one time to Florida.

I liked the vacation at New York the best, because it really helped me with my
natural speakin'. Until this awsome trip, i had -you won't believe it - always marks between D and E in my school english. Today, I have an A - and I'm still
holding it ! But, who's interested in my english History ? Yeah, nobody.
So, i'm gonna to tell you something about this great vacation.

Well, in the first week we visited the Central Park, the Empire State Building (Wowy, it's really big !), and some districts like Chinatown and Manhattan Island. Well - exactly seen, we lived in a Hotel at Manhattan Island, so we didn't have to walk that much :p .
The "National Museum" is awsome, fantastic, and it's really just like in this new movie with Ben Stiller, you know, "Night at the Museum".
The T-Rex is funny, and i made a photo of my Dad's Head, beeing in Rex' Mouth. Well, yes, that's forbidden, but, there wasn't anyone, who saw us, and...
Waah ! I'M SO SORRY !

All in all, it was the best vacation in my whole life !
When i finish school, I'm going to be Au-Pair in America for one year (Maybe you've seen my Thread in this Forum)

Argh. I'm tired now. I am really no night-guy...uah...


Greez,
Raem