Does it need any reason for teatime? (English OT - the first chapter)

[netwarrior]

Since I can't stand fantasy fiction of any kind, I do not like Lord of the Rings. I read the first book and I wondered many times how many pages one can write just describing things I do not want to now about. And it's very heavy stuff indeed, the language isn't easy. I never tried it in German, though. The fact that "elves" had been translated with "Elben" is even for me as someone who doesn't like fantasy, absolutely terrible. Raping the German language …

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I know what you mean, it took me half a year to read this book because you need to take a rest between the lines to think about what was now going on in the story.

Tolkin wrote a lot of unnecessary stuff.
The reason was that people in former times couldn't go holiday in foreign countries anytime like nowadays, so British authors were used to write in their works every single detail of the landscape.
This style was common used to this time, think about it that Lords of the Ring was written around 1940-45, so Tolkin choose of course this style.

Well, this huge describtion of the world of Middle Earth and the hobbit family quarrels are annoying, and have mostly nothing to do with the plot, but after the first fithy pages you get used to it.
I wonder sometimes how the fellowship could be so easy going when they were in such a rush.

The book is hard to read in many cases but the story is more detailed than you could show in a nine hour triology, but the good thing is that the movie got more into details Tolkin just mentioned in his books, like the Uruk-Hai.

[Omega]

Its weird when you hear from your teacher that you´re like 13-15 points right now.... i honestly tought this will get hard in english but it seems that this advance course/regular course will both be a piece of cake... on the other hand ... when i look at the work of my classmates i can understand my ranking. We had to write a short story, of our own, in the last week. The other girls/boys wrote some story, wich were so bad that i tought i´m back in the 5th grade... like "july and tom was" or "they take us to the hotel and spoke with us"... i mean okay, my english isnt good... like "13-15 points"-good, but their english is that bad that i´m automaticly getting a push in grades

weird

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Word! Same here

I started "learning" english with my lovely RPGs and Animes, the games I used to buy in the United States helped a lot improving my english but i have still some problems with the grammar. actually i dont really know when to use which "time" so i often mess up everything.
and the japanese animes where helping also, because i get subbed animes from the internet, animes with english subtitle.
my english teacher warned me that it wouldn t be easy if I take the english leistungkurs in my school. like boo there are only idiots in my class so it wasnt that difficult to get 15 points.

I would appreciate it if someone would point out my mistakes in this post ^^

[Diomedes]

Why is everyone complaining about Tolkien?
I loved this book. I just read it in german, but still, this is right like fantasy should be. Like a big fairy tale, you need a few moths for. Many details, that helps you to imagine everything.
I admit that it is sometimes tiring, but you shouldn't rush reading a book of this size. Just take your time and enjoy the fantasy, that is the way to read fantasy stories.

actually i dont really know when to use which "time" so i often mess up everything.

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I know this. Acutally i trust my feelings, when to use which time or word. Doesn't work always, though.

there are only idiots in my class

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In my class, the idiot is the teacher not the students. We had a listening comprehension last lessen, and she wrote down some words we might not know, and explained them. And "need" was one of those words. Maybe i'm wrong, but i guess that everyone should know this word to reach the 12th class.

[Ranmaru]

Obviously nine out of ten English teachers are just incompetent. They claim to know which words are important for conversations and which are not and that's just plain bullshit. There is no "list of words you have to know" or vice versa.
Fortunately, my advanced course teacher was really great. He just talked to us, we read English books and watched English films, really great films like 2001: A Space Oddyssey, Dead Poet's Society or Pulp Fiction. He never gave us vocabularies, we just used dictionaries and fetched the words we needed. We wrote fictional stories in different styles of speech (eg. Business English, Old English, Modern English) and after a while we just wrote with our own styles. There was no problem writing slang language or bad words like "fuck" or "shit". We wrote short stories, novellas and so on and that was something that really helped us learning English. If I ever became an English teacher, that would be exactly the way I would teach. It was great.

[CT]

Gosh, I just thought about practising my French a little bit and posted some assumably weird stuff in our new French Talk Thread. Compared to writing English, it is actually really tough to get the same thing done in French. Especially because I stopped learning, reading and writing that shitty language more than four years ago. >_>

Nevertheless, I really appreciated this chance. I think I should speak more than two languages properly, so I should probably (re-)intensify my French and Latin practice. ^^

[Ranmaru]

Gosh, I just thought about practising my French a little bit and posted some assumably weird stuff in our new French Talk Thread. Compared to writing English, it is actually really tough to get the same thing done in French. Especially because I stopped learning, reading and writing that shitty language more than four years ago. >_>

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I don't understand a word in French even though I learned it for five years. I don't know why but I was never in the mood to do any study for that language and so I just forgot everything. A shame, if you ask me now since I'd like to be as good in French as I'm in English.

By the way, it's hard for me to write in the Japanese Thread, too. Regarding the fact that I'm learning Japanese for only about a year now, I can speak it quite well even though my word pool is of course extremely narrow. To write it, however, is another story and quite hard. A standard posting in that thread takes thrice the time I need for a German or an English post, if not even more. My best friend's the dictionary in order to check if the characters I used are the right ones … nonetheless I like writing posts in Japanese since that's really a good excercise.

[Virginie]

Gosh, I just thought about practising my French a little bit and posted some assumably weird stuff in our new French Talk Thread. Compared to writing English, it is actually really tough to get the same thing done in French. Especially because I stopped learning, reading and writing that shitty language more than four years ago. >_>

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Believe me, writing in French is even hard for me.
Since nearly every verb or adjective depends on the gender of the nouns in a phrase (and I always mix them up!) you will make far more mistakes in witten French than in spoken. Not to mention all the endings (declination anyone?) which are pronounced the same way o_O

But as my cousin in France had to learn German I noticed that German is even worse to learn We are just lucky that we didn't have to!

[Ralph]

I know some French guys who had to learn German ... - oh, that was hard! English is much easier to learn than most other languages as we hear, see (TV/movies) and read (internet) much English. Most foreign people can speak English pretty well, but those who have it as native language often can't speak more than 2 words in another language ... they often don't need that, though.

[Goddess]

@ Diomedes: And I still don't like Tolkien. I really appreciated to read Shakespeare, but Tolkien... well, you all know the story.

It was just a matter of time 'til some would open a French thread... shit. Although I understand most of the text when reading it, I don't understand a word when it is spoken. And additionally I just can't write a single French post. I really unlearned nearly all words and grammar as well. Sadly so.

I just hope nobody's going up to something. Although I'm moderator in this discussion forum, I really don't know all of the French swear-words.

Cheerio!

[Clean_Boy]

Yeah ... ähm ... it's my first post in this topic ... my english is terrible but ok ...
I'm a old men and i like football ... >_>

[Omega]

Such a waste of time, I finished my homework a few minutes ago and what should I say about it? It is just ridiculous and laughable! It was a "What can u see on teh pretty picture?" "What do you think the comic wants to show us?" exercise (about South Africa and the Apartheid...uhh BORING). Am I in a Kindergarden? And the best thing: my English teacher (Miss Bölköw, it sounds even like someone who cant speak english) is making a lot of spelling mistakes? Is that a bad joke?



as ever I would appreciate it if someone would point out my mistakes in this post ^^ (not spelling mistakes xD)

[Ranmaru]

as ever I would appreciate it if someone would point out my mistakes in this post ^^ (not spelling mistakes xD)

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As you wish …

It is just ridiculous and laughable!

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"Ridiculous" and "laughable" are synonyms, so there's no need to mention both in one sentence. If you did it for a specific reason (eg. to point out the fact), just ignore my correction.

Am I in a Kindergarden?

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Kindergarten is an uncountable noun, so it's "am I in kindergarten"; without the article.

And the best thing: my English teacher (Miss Bölköw, it sounds even like someone who cant speak english) is making a lot of spelling mistakes?

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You should say "makes a lot of …" because the progressive form indicates that she is doing it right now. Well, it could be that she is making mistakes right now, but since you're writing about a general habit, you should use the present simple tense. The question mark is also weird.

That's what I found so far but it's no problem at all. One would mark these mistakes in an exam but everyone understands what you're saying, so stay frosty.

[Omega]

You should say "makes a lot of …" because the progressive form indicates that she is doing it right now. Well, it could be that she is making mistakes right now, but since you're writing about a general habit, you should use the present simple tense. The question mark is also weird.

That's what I found so far but it's no problem at all. One would mark these mistakes in an exam but everyone understands what you're saying, so stay frosty.

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Ahh shit I was thinking about it "Should I write makes a lot or is making a lot" but now it makes sense and the question mark wasnt my intention ^^.

thx

feel free to point out my mistakes at anytime

[Goddess]

feel free to point out my mistakes at anytime

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Muahahaha.... } I will.

Guess what?! Today I got a boost in pay. I knew it... one day I will get a Lambourghini Diablo.

[Ranmaru]

Guess what?! Today I got a boost in pay. I knew it... one day I will get a Lambourghini Diablo.

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Same here. But for obvious reasons I will first buy a Porsche 911 in green. That's a nice way to go … from VW Polo to VW Golf (my current ride, so I'm halfway there!) to Posche 911 to Lamborghini Diablo.

[Goddess]

Same here. But for obvious reasons I will first buy a Porsche 911 in green. That's a nice way to go … from VW Polo to VW Golf (my current ride, so I'm halfway there!) to Posche 911 to Lamborghini Diablo.

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In that case it will be: from Mazda 3 (current ride) to Audi Sportcabrio (or something familiar), follwed by Lamborghini Diablo... yellow of course. I just love those doors. :creepy:

[Diomedes]

Sorry but I can't figure out what may be so great in a Lamborghini Diablo. I'm just no big fan of this typical italian sports car design. Can't see a major difference to a Ferrari. Looks allmost the same.

I prefer something less expensive and more elegant. Something like a Mitsubishi 3000GT or a Nissan Skyline. Maybe a bit tiny, but that's ok. 8)

If it has to be a "usual" car, I would choose a Opel Astra or a Nissan 350 Z. Of course, in my current financial condition I would be happy about any car, even if it's already 20 years old. I just don't want to take this expenisve, noisy, gross smelling, unconfortable, time ignoring bus anymore.

[Omega]

I am cursed thats for sure. I wish since my childhood for a BMW 3 as my first car and it IS possible to get it. A good girlfriend told me today that she would get the BMW from her brother, I was fucking shocked. She said a few months ago " This car is to big, I would never drive such a car" and now she is such a pain in the neck.. argh I could kill myself..I am so jealous

AAAAAAAND the english lession is still boring as ever, last time we should start a discussion of two groups who represent the blacks and the other group the apartheit freaks. I dindt take part in the discussion and it went like that:

"Why do we have to work so hard"
"Because you are black"
"Why do we get such bad jobs and education"
"Because your are black"
"But we are humans like your"
"Black humans dont have brains"
"Are you ACHTUNG DAS WURDE ECHT VON EINER SCHÜLERING GESAGT! angsty of us?"


Just like that a whole hour.. Pisa anyone?


NOW GO GODESS ^^ take my post apart!

[Ranmaru]

"Are you ACHTUNG DAS WURDE ECHT VON EINER SCHÜLERING GESAGT! angsty of us?"

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Actually, the word "angst" does exist in the English language. It's one of the rare germanisms they adopted from us (like kindergarten oder rucksack). Its meaning however is slightly different from the German counterpart since "angst" in English doesn't mean just fear but more something like "to be scared halfway to death" … it therefore is a quite strong expression.
I've never heard an adjective made out of it, though.

[DennisHH]

Did someone play Breath of Fire III?
I Mean, the language is so simple, I think even in nursery school they would have no problems with this game.(Well, maybe because of FSK, and don't bcause of the language^^)To play games and watch movies in english is a really good donk bridge.^^
I mean: Learn more, get more.

Another topic^^
What do you think is meaned with"One Piece."Well, of course there is a german translation for it, but look, it can also mean Piece like part. I think its a trap :P


Cars topic:
Ferrari, is interesting but its more a car for people who want show you who is the boss.
Lamborghini is in my opinion the better Italian sport car. There is nothing..and suddenly disappears a yellow monster with a V12 engine:P

Porsche?

Holy Porscha...

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