Xensaga: Episode III - Also Sprach Zarathustra ~ Thread #2

[Holystar]

ACHTUNG... wer der TOTALEN SPOILER-Versuchung nicht widerstehen kann, aber sich nicht spoilern will, soll nicht weiterlesen.... und hier STOPPEN.

Alle anderen....


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"Dank" geht an Bartalome, von dem ich die Sache erst erfuhr, und mich natürlich gleich vollspoilerte...... ihr wisst bestimmt, dass es eine XS3-Demo gibt... und wie es scheint, war Namco dumm genug, die GESAMTE DATABASE dort draufzupacken... tjo, und findige Leute haben jetzt die Demo gehackt und somit ist wohl mehr oder weniger die gesamte XS-Story bekannt... natürlich nicht Gameplay-mässig, aber so von der Story her. Dürfte wohl noch ein Weilchen dauern, bis alles übersetzt ist, aber hier mal die Posts von Kouli bis und mit Seite 14 im entsprechenden GameFAQs-Topic zusammengefasst, dem wie üblich alle Credits gehören. Thanks a billion!!

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Ihr seid noch dabei... OK.... it's SPOILER-TIME...

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Damn all of you that suspected Heinlein is Wilhelm. You are right.

chaos, exists when the universe was born, with the power of the Anima to form the body with a human's shape and consciousness, holds the power of the dimensional failsafe of the universe. Release of the failsafe is basically annihilation, so back in those times, the power was divided by another existence, Maria the Animus. That's the basic jist of it. When he regains his power, he will make a dimensional shift to LJ/Earth.

Maria, none of those obvious terms but yeah, like BK said, KOS MOS will be awakened to be Maria, when she defeats Telos. But, some special changes with Maria's memories, yes, she is Maria, but she's no the real Maria, a new personality was created. The DataBase suggested Sakura and MOMO as example.

Just above the E.S, they will explain back to chaos/Anima, and Maria/Animus. E.S is basically half of chaos and when Maria divided that power for chaos, her half of the Anima was spreaded out through the UMN. And a quick recap of the E.S:

Asher, chaos and Jr
Issachar, Pellegri
Gad, Richard
Simeon, Albedo (note here, White Testament got a different body but it's the same as Simeon)
Zebulun, Ziggy and Momo
Dan, Voyager
Dinah, KOS MOS
Naphatali, Virgil
Judah, Kevin
Joseph, Hermann
Ruben, Jin
Levi, Margulis

For other potential cool mech, there are:

Omega Id, Omega Universitas, Omega Metempsychosis, Omega Res Novae, Erde Kaiser, Erde Kaiser Alpha, Erde Kaiser Fury...etc

Nephilim and Abel, hmph, I see words on Nephilim which is a human born in LJ/Earth. Basically, that Grimore programmer and Vector, they were doing this Lemegeton program, which is control the Zohar. When the test fails, Nephilim was the first one to disappear, so yeah, back in all those time, she was technically the first to disappear. And the odd thing is, when Nephilim disappears, Abel shows up. Which seems to be they can't co-exist or they have the 'because then therefore' effect going on.

Abel, he is the supposed pilot of Omega and uses the Zohar as main energy source. He's got the autism state going on, so normal communication is impossible. So, they were using the UMN support system to try to communicate with him. His real identity is to act as the side sustance of the lowend domain's observation terminal of, UDO. You can say that UDO picked Abel as a physical form. Yuriev will try to use Abel to obtain Omega, as the weapon to defy God. Abel's conscious side is basically the Ark itself. I'll rewrite this bit tomorrow, all that high end and lowend stuff of UDO is fuzzy.

As for Maria no Miko, maiden of Maria or daughter of Maria, whatever you want, both work with the context. That's Shion's early incarnation. That's just the jist of it. There is a rather lengthy section on her, so we'll check back on this later.

There is stuff on UDO, but I haven't check for Zohar yet. It's like 4 in the morning, so I need some sleep. Continue again tomorrow.


...ein paar Stunden Schlaf für Kouli, und weiter geht die Goodness...


UDO, same old stuff we know, a mystery existence through the UMN. Originally, UDO was said to be borned as an AI from a navigational device. With Joachim Mizrahi, he used it as a control device of the Zohar. Basically, yet another method to try to control the Zohar. The thing is, by Vector's record, it existed way back in the time of LJ/Earth is still intact, and was recognized as a wave existence. No further details beyond that, except it's pretty sure that it's an existence from another dimension.

Original Zohar, some on it but nothing really interesting. But, the word 'Zohar' is written lots of other entries, so may piece them together later. One thing to say is, back in when it was first found, Vector it in and conducted researched on it. Grimore Vermu was among the reseachers. They failed and created a space time anamoly, that was how JL disappears. Pretty straight forward.

Telos, it's by Kevin using the company called Ganador. The backbone of that is mostly Vector. Telos is an android made by using Maria's body. Thing is, Telos is said to be excel KOS MOS in pretty much all areas. Now, the answer for some of your question: Damned this Kevin, he had this design way back when he was a kid, while on Miltia, he presented part of the design to, tada, Sellers who was a technical adviser of Ormus back then.

Anima Vessel, I talked about above. It's half of chaos, that's why Wilhelm said that in the DS ver.

Ein Sof, sorry, can't recall what that is right now. Someone remind me, please.

Febronia, a 'Trance Genetic Type' Realian made by Joachim Mizrahi, for the purpose to the connection experiment of the Zohar. Cecil and Cath weren't the only Realian made based on her, but there was a third one, Almadel. All of them are for trying to connect with the Zohar. Back when Shion was a kid and her mother/Aoi Uzuki was sick, Febronia took care of Shion. Further, Virgil was injured in a battle and that was how Feb and Virgil met. Feb sarcrificed her own body tissue to save Virgil. Of course, love was grown between them. Next, when the Song Of Nephilim was activated, those combat Realian went berserk, and in order to save Shion and Virgil, she shielded them and died right before their eyes. Pretty sad stuff.

Wilhelm, he knew about the stuff on chaos's failsafe ability, so his goal is to change the utopia(but if the failsafe brings annihilation, it's more like the kakotopia) of the world. He basically works against the God's defined compass, so the database suggests he is a traitor to the god. So he tries to stop the failsafe happening, he chose the eternal recurrence by Zarathustra, so keep rewinding the time to the past and the inside the chain of the time will be repeated forever. We don't know how many recurrence has happened now, could be the 10th, 100th. But there is distortion produced with the recurrence, so people's consciousness were changed gradually. People eventually decided to defy his power and live to the future with their own intention.

Albedo, he wishes to become one with Jr. His death was merely an escape to that wish. But by dealing with Wilhelm, for becoming a Testament, he chose to destroy Dimitri who equalized with UDO through the medium of Omega. And to protect Jr, he tries to destroy Dimitri using his Testament power, but on the verge of that, Gaignan took over. At the end, Albedo and Jr were united in heart.

Deus, not that I have seem.

Yuriev, nothing really interesting, same old horror from Pied Piper, so he tries to escape from that trauma, and created the URTV, to destroy UDO. With the special power he got from the verge of contacting with UDO, he takes over Gaignan's consciousness.

Heinlein, or Wilhelm, when he gains control of Ormus, he has the Ormus to go take back their 'holy ground', Miktam. At the end of his entry, it just says it's all part of Wilhelm's plan. For example, the Vector made ES, the development was conducted within Labyrinthos.

For Shion's affinity with the Zohar, rather to say that she got the blood from her mother/people of the zohar, it's more like because the peculiarityshe has, at the times of the LJ, she can communicate with Maria through the heart.

And speaking of Wilhelm's mech, it's right below Maria no Miko entry, I can see it now. The name is Joshua. This has NO Anima Relic. Its energy is directly from Wilhelm himself, a totally different mech. While being a mech, it's also the main reactor of the dammerrung and functions as the control core of Zarathustra. Unlike those E.S, Joshua is built _BY_ Wilhelm himself, so Joshua is also known as half of Wilhelm. Its power is far greateer than the ES, but when it acts as the regulating system of the Zarathustra, there goes the weak point where most of the mech's functions are limited.

For the Omega, here is what they are:

- Omega Id, is the state when the Omega Universitas's generator's output rise
- Omega Universitas, prototype of Galaxy Federation made Omega
- Omega Metempsychosis, ultimate form of Omega, one of the relics of God. It takes in the Zohar and reads the data completely
- Omega Res Novae, is a reproduction based on Proto Omega. This is Dimitri intend to use to against the Immigrant Fleet

For Jr, that entry has more on the unite with Albedo. Due to Gaignan's sacrifice, Albedo and Jr were able to unite. Simple to say, one body, 2 hearts. Their relation is like the 2 sides of the same coin.

There is an entry on Zohar Link, it was with the Emulator, which caused Ariadne.

Rote Mantle is indeed Kevin so he can inspect Shion and others.

Zarathustra, is the mechanism for the eternal recurrence. It was created way back in the ancient times. The Compass is like the control terminal of the Zarathustra. For the real thing, a crystal shape structure spreads to the underground of Miktam. Shion's pendant serves as the control key. It was originally made invade the world of God, but Wilhelm added the eternal recurrence function to it. To activate the function of the eternal recurrence, it's necessary to control the power of god/chaos' power. And for all that, it's needed for each Anima to be awakened and with the guidance by Maria to communite with chaos through the heart.

Failsafe, which is basically chaos' power, that can destroy the universe.