Wahl zwischen FF8 und FF9

[Renegade 92]

-Ein Kartenspiel das keine Sau versteht. Ernsthaft. Versucht es erst garnicht. Nichtmal GameFAQS ist sich einig was die Programmierer sich dabei gedacht haben.

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Hä das Kartenspiel in FF9 ist VIEL leichter zu verstehen als das von FF8 Oo

[Liferipper]

Hä das Kartenspiel in FF9 ist VIEL leichter zu verstehen als das von FF8 Oo

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Das macht "Mach was du willst, wer gewinnt ist sowieso reiner Zufall." trotzdem nicht zu einem guten Regelwerk...

[blutmetzger]

Hä das Kartenspiel in FF9 ist VIEL leichter zu verstehen als das von FF8 Oo

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aye, find ich auch.

[Icetongue]

Das Kartenspiel ist zufällig wie sonst was. Wenn ich in FF8 eine 9 an eine 7 lege, weiss ich dass die Karte gewinnt. In FF9 kommen Statuswerte, Elemente und der Zufall dazu.

Cards will have a few stats below the picture. Here's what they mean:

PTDM
----
P : the power of the card in hexadecimal.
T : the card type, P, M, X, or A.
D : the card's physical defense in hexadecimal.
M : the card's magical defense in hexadecimal.

Example: 1P40

What is hexadecimal, you ask? Hexadecimal is the numbers represented
from 0-15 by letters and numbers. So 0 is 0, and 15 is F. This means
the strongest card in the game would be FAFF, since A is the strongest
card type.

Here's the confusing part. While the card's stats are represented in
hex, those stats represent another number entirely. Here's a chart.

Hex | Stat | Min | Max
-------------------------
0F | 0 | 000 | 015
1F | 1 | 016 | 031
2F | 2 | 032 | 047
3F | 3 | 048 | 063
4F | 4 | 064 | 079
5F | 5 | 080 | 095
6F | 6 | 096 | 111
7F | 7 | 112 | 127
8F | 8 | 128 | 143
9F | 9 | 144 | 159
AF | A | 160 | 175
BF | B | 176 | 191
CF | C | 192 | 207
DF | D | 208 | 223
EF | E | 224 | 239
FF | F | 240 | 255

Why the "Hex" column? Notice how the first number in the hex
column matches the number in the stat column? That's how hexadecimal
works. For a two digit hex number, you take the first number,
multiply by 16 and add the value of the second number. So 6F is
6*16+15 = 111. The minimum value would be 60 or 6*16+0=96.


Phase 1:
* Each card has a power as discussed previously. This value falls
between the min and max listed in the table. Each card also has
a defense fitting the the above chart.

A B
Example : 4P22 attacks 1M01

The first number that appears on card A is its attack power, say
70 (4 = between 64 and 79). Card A is a physical card, and card
B has 0 physical defense, so the first number to appear on card
B is its defense, say 7 (0 = between 0 and 16).

Phase 2:
# Next, the computer rolls a number between 0 and the number shown
in phase 1. This will be the *actual* attack or defense. Let's
say it rolls a 66 for card A, and 1 for card B.

Phase 3:
# The number rolled in phase 2 is subtracted from the number in
phase 1. This guarantees that the number will be positive, and
the highest number wins. So:

Card A: 70 - 66 : 4
Card B: 7 - 1 : 6

There are a few things this should tell you :

1.) Higher rolls are BAD. You want low rolls so less is subtracted
from the total number.
2.) A weak card can defeat a strong card if the roll is in its favor,
look at how the 1M01 defended itself against a 4P22. <--- genau sowas passiert mir in 50% aller Fälle und ich sehe nicht ein, wo ein derartiger Zufall seinen Platz hat.

If you want to know how likely a card is to win a battle, here's the
basic formula:

1 + Power of Weak
100 * (1 - ----------------------)
2*(1+ Power of Strong)

So in our example, you have:

1 + 7 142 - 8 136
100 * ( 1 - --------- ) = 100 * --- --- = 100 * --- = 94.4%
2(1 + 70) 142 142 142

So in our example, card A will win the battle 94% of the time. But
in the example of the battle, it lost because of a bad roll; that's
the 6% it loses.

But, since you may not know attack/defense values right away, you
can get a basic idea. Using our example again, take the maximum
attack card A could have (79) and the lowest defense card B can have
(0) and use our equation. The result is 99.4%. Now, take the minimum
attack card A can have (64) and the maximum defense card B can have
(15) and use our equation. The result is 87.7%.

So, in our example, if you don't know the values of the cards fighting
it out, card A will have a 88-100% chance of beating card B if it
is attacking.

If you played card A, good job. You would have won the card battle,
but you had a 6% chance of losing, and lost. Your opponent now
controls both cards. If you had won, you'd control both cards.

In conclusion: What were they thinking?

[Magicdragon]

Danke erstmal das ihr soviel geschrieben habt ,ihr macht es mir nicht leicht.Ich nehme (Trommelwirbel,Trommelwirbel,Trommelwirbel)



.....FFVIII

Ich weiss ich weiss jetzt wird es von einigen harsche Kritik,aber die Beitraege von Icetongue und Duke Earthrunner haben mich am meisten beeinflusst,FFVIII zu nehmen.

Ich meinte den davor.

@Exkalipoor:in FFIV DS gibt es die Fähigkeit Sorgenfrei wodurch auch keine zufallskämpfe mehr kommen.