PS3-Thread #14 - Charted!

[ShooterInc.]

Was jetzt so falsch daran ist, für eine Randinfo kurz Wikipedia heranzuziehen, muss mir jemand erklären.

@R.D.

Ich glaube eher, dass bis dahin sich Dienste wie Onlive etc. durchgesetzt haben. Ich würde es begrüßen.

Mal schauen, was die Zukunft bringt.

[Zelretch]

Was jetzt so falsch daran ist, für eine Randinfo kurz Wikipedia heranzuziehen, muss mir jemand erklären.

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In der Schule bekommste 'ne 6 dafür.

[~Jack~]

Ich glaube eher, dass bis dahin sich Dienste wie Onlive etc. durchgesetzt haben. Ich würde es begrüßen.

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Ein Dienst für den ich zwar nicht mehr aufrüsten muss, aber ständig Gebühren für meine Spiele zahlen und dazu noch hoffen muss, dass die Server nicht schlappmachen da ich sonst nicht spielen kann?

Na hoffentlich setzt sich sowas nie durch.

In der Schule bekommste 'ne 6 dafür.

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Nur wenn du wikipedia als alleinige Quelle angibst. Ansonsten darf das ruhig drinstehen.

[ShooterInc.]

Na hoffentlich setzt sich sowas nie durch.

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Es ist klar, dass heute solche Dienste noch gar nicht massentauglich sind, aber die Technologien werden immer effizienter. Letztendlich läuft alles auf Kosteneinsparungen hinaus, die dann (hoffentlich) an den Kunden weitergegeben werden.

Das Internet in der heutigen Form hat sich auch nicht über Nacht entwickelt...

Btw: Kann es sein das der Ton hier immer rauer wird?

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Frühlingsgefühle.

[Andrei]

ich kenn ja die Frühlingsmüdigkeit oder Deppression aber Frühlingsagressivität und Frühlings bezogene sturheit? Naja, spaß macht's auf jedenfall.

[These]

Ich finde, ein Microsoft vs Sony-Thread würde die Systemthreads deutlich entlasten. Vor allem den PS3-Thread, hier sind ja in letzter Zeit ständig Xbots unterwegs.

So, genug Consolewars.

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Finde zwar Natal technisch interessanter, aber die Szene mit dem Schwertwirbel ist schon recht beeindruckend. Ich hoffe nur, dass zu dem Ding auch eine Art Nunchuk hinzukommt. Hab keine Lust in einer Hand den normalen Dual Shock zu halten und in der anderen Hand dann noch den Motion Controller.

[Andrei]

es muss fast ein nunchuck veschnitt kommen, anders wäre es einfach viel zu umständlich. Wann ist jetct die GDC ( us) ? Nicht heute? Da wollte man doch was neues vorstellen?

[Lucian der Graue]

Ich hoffe nur, dass zu dem Ding auch eine Art Nunchuk hinzukommt.

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Not sure...

NeoGAF=Wikipedia?

[noRkia]

naja um mathedefinitionen kurz nachzulesen ist wiki doch ok.
das man vielleicht keine interepretationen zu büchern raussuchen sollte ist klar.

[Andrei]

Auf der GDC wurde der neue Playstation Controler "Move" ( vormals Arc ?) enthüllt:



Unterschiede zwichen Move und Wii

For those who need the basics, the PlayStation Move is a remote-like motion-sensitive controller with a sphere at the end. The sub-controller is an off-hand controller being offered for some Move games. The Move controller connects to the PS3 with the help of a PlayStation Eye camera, which detects the Move's colored sphere, while tilt sensors in the move transmit their position data to the PS3.

But at first glance, the whole thing seems like just another version of the Wii Remote and Nunchuk.

Not quite. There are key differences:

-Fewer buttons: The Move controller is actually even more streamlined than the Wii Remote. Nintendo's Remote still offers/confuses a new player with a d-pad, plus, A, minus, 1 and 2 buttons as well as a home button and B trigger. The Move has its own home button and underbelly trigger, but just five other points of button input. That makes the controller actually feel a little naked and therefore likely even less daunting to a new player — unless they need their controllers to look like TV remotes.

-No wasted batteries: The Wii remote sucks up AA battery juice. The Move and its companion sub-controller are rechargeable via the same mini-USB connection used to charge the PS3's main controller.

-A smarter controller: I played SOCOM 4, a third person-shooter, with the Move pointed at the TV like a gun and the sub-controller in my left hand to command character movement. Wii games that were controlled with Remote and Nunchuk could be befuddled if the player pointed the Remote away from the screen. If you were playing a shooter and aimed just off the screen, the game's camera might start spinning or the game would pause and ask for the player to point at the TV again. The combination of camera sensors — the Sony Eyetoy on top of the TV detects the presence of the Move — and a gyroscope prevented SOCOM 4 from getting confused. When I moved my controller to point off of the TV, the gyroscopic sensors kept track of my movement. The same thing happened when a SOCOM developer blocked the Eyetoy camera. The precision of the controller diminishes in these situation. but the PS3 doesn't lose track of the device.

-No wire!: The Wii Remote and Nunchuk are tethered by a short cable. The PS3 Move and its subcontroller are not.

-No off-hand gyro: The Wii Nunchuk has a sensor that detects motion, more crudely than does the Remote. The PS3's version of the Nunchuk, does not have a motion sensor, according to a developer I was speaking to. There's a chance that is not final, but that is the case with the controllers at Sony's showcase event today. But that's why two-handed boxing-style games were shown with two Moves. On the Wii, those kinds of games are handled, with supposedly less precision, with a Remote and Nunchuk.

-The colored ball: The colorful sphere at the pointing end of the Move is the thing that the PlayStation Eye uses to detect the presence of the Move. The color changes. In the demo I played with SOCOM 4, the sphere was orange. Why? Because the software detected that there was no orange in the background. If we had been in a different room, the color would be different. The Wii's signature hue may be white, but this varying color at the end of the Move will likely prove to be the Move's visual trademark.

-The Z: Without a Wii MotionPlus, the Wii Remote cannot accurately sense depth.The Wii's sensor bar doesn't know how close the player is standing to their TV, nor can it recognize movements toward or away from it. The PS3, however, can detect such movement in the Z-plane. It does this thanks to the sphere at the end of the controller. If the player moves the Move toward themselves, the PlayStation Eye camera sees the sphere shrink and therefore knows the controller has been moved in the Z-plane. Clever. [UPDATE: Readers point out that a standard Wii Remote can sense some depth. I have even played games — a long time ago — that ask for the Wii remote to be pulled in or out. I never found that detection to be all that precise and believe the PS3 Move, based on how the tech was described to me, should be able to detect Z-plane movement more effectively, without needing to be pointed directly at the TV, as the Wii Remote must be.]

Those are the differences, all less obvious than the similarities. The PS3 Move is being shown to support shooters and table tennis, fistfighting and co-op platforming. These may be familiar templates to Wii gamers who have sampled Metroid, Wii Sports, and Super Mario Galaxy. But at the nitty-gritty level, some of the PS3 Move's difference offer some nice feature improvements — maybe a drawback or two — and something that isn't quite the Wii-too it appears to be at first glance.

And, hey, the Sony person showing me SOCOM didn't even make me wear the controller's wrist strap. A Nintendo person would never let me get away with that.

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Hier eine Liste der Firmen die Spiele für den neuen Controler entwickeln oder planen zu entwickeln

* 505 Games U.S.
* Activision Publishing, Inc.
* AQ INTERACTIVE Inc.
* ARC SYSTEMS WORK CO.,LTD
* ATLUS Co., LTD.
* Bigben Interactive
* CAPCOM CO., LTD.
* CCP
* Crave Entertainment
* CYBERFRONT Corporation
* Disney Interactive Studios
* Electronic Arts Inc.
* FromSoftware, Inc.
* Game Republic, Inc.
* GUST CO., LTD.
* HUDSON SOFT CO., LTD.
* IREM SOFTWARE ENGINEERING INC.
* Koei Co., Ltd.
* Konami Digital Entertainment Co., Ltd.
* Majesco Entertainment
* Marvelous Entertainment Inc.
* NAMCO BANDAI Games Inc.
* ONGAKUKAN Co., Ltd.
* Oxygen Games
* PAON CORPORATION
* Q Entertainment Inc.
* Q-GAMES, LTD.
* SEGA CORPORATION
* Sony Online Entertainment
* Spike Co., Ltd.
* SQUARE ENIX GROUP
* TECMO, LTD.
* THQ Inc.
* UBISOFT
* Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment
* Zoo Entertainment, Inc

Quelle Kotaku

[Waku]

TV Super Stars sieht aus wie



Absolutly terrifying. The empty Eyes.