Eher das komplette Verschwinden von allem, was Fanservice enthält...Zitat:
Ja, shit. Weniger Eroge->Anime Adaptionen I guess? Naja, darum wärs nicht sonderlich Schade. Aber generell ist das irgendwo Bullshit.
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Eher das komplette Verschwinden von allem, was Fanservice enthält...Zitat:
Ja, shit. Weniger Eroge->Anime Adaptionen I guess? Naja, darum wärs nicht sonderlich Schade. Aber generell ist das irgendwo Bullshit.
gibt wohl doch noch nen gottZitat:
Zitat von Liferipper
Effektiv sagt die Regelung, dass sie in Zukunft Superhelden-Comics wie im Sliver Age machen werden.
YGO 5Ds wird beendet und durch eine Nachfolgeserie ersetzt: YGO Zexal.
Story, Charadesign von Kazuki Takahashi
"Yuma Tsukumo" wird der neue Mainchara.
Start: Frühling 2010
Quelle: ANN
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...manga-revealed
Korrekt. Das wollte ich damit auch "zeigen". Ich habe das schon extra etwas provozierend geschrieben. :D Ich dachte das wäre schon beim ersten Post klar geworden. (Wo ich Sachen aus nem Zitat gestrichen habe) Gut, ich hätte noch ein " :X " oder sonstiges hinzufügen können, aber es sollte passen.Zitat:
Zitat von Akito
Aber eigentlich wollte ich mit so einer Diskussion hier nicht auch noch anfangen.
@Regelung: Naja, es heißt ja erst einmal "nur" in Tokyo. Werden ja sehen, wie lange es hält. Die haben schon lange Probleme mit diesen Sachen, ich glaub irgendwie nicht daran, dass sie es WIRKLICH durchhalten.
Im Gegensatz zu Deutschland... können Japaner da ganz schön ran gehen. (Ich meine da müssen die Firmen ja sogar etwas auf die Konsumenten hören, da sonst niemand mehr was kauft. Man Stelle sich das mal in Deutschland vor. Ein Großer Handyanbieter verlegt den Standort ins Ausland und die deutschen kaufen keine Handys mehr von ihm. Undenkbar. Wird gemeckert und weiter gekauft.)
Tokyo beinhaltet 1/3 der Bevölkerung und vermutlich die höchste Konzentration von Kunden im ganzen Land. Das 'is nicht wie Berlin.
Vllt. sind jap. Firmen mutiger als man glaubt, die TAF steht ja auch auf der Kippe. Über das Ziel kann man sich streiten aber die Durchführung ist einfach nur für den Popo.Zitat:
Shueisha senior managing director and editor Kazuhiko Torishima said at the New Manga Creators Awards ceremony on Monday: “I want new manga authors to produce manga that would blow away [Tokyo Governor] Shintaro Ishihara.” Masahiko Ibaraki, the editor-in-chief of Shueisha's third editorial department, added to the new manga creators, "Don't let the chilling effect [of increased regulation] stop you from doing material you want to do. Jump will feature anything [we feel] that is exciting [to read].“
Äh ja, whateverZitat:
Zitat von Asmodina
Ne, wirklich nichthttp://666kb.com/i/bnhb2r2dr9c6np39h.gif
Ich würd gerne mal 5Ds ordentlich weitersehen, aber nach Folge 79 hab ich nur noch vereinzelte subs und ich habe eigentlich keine Lust auf youtube zurückgreifen zu müssen um sie dort weiterzusehen.Zitat:
Zitat von Asmodina
Edit: Lol, was zum Henker ist das für ein Charakterdesign @_@
Wenn die Intentionen nicht so pervers überdeutlich wären, würde ich darin auch eine Chance sehen.Zitat:
gibt wohl doch noch nen gott
Erfahrungsgemäß: Was wird so ein Gesetz in der Praxis bewegen?
Die PTA, welche durch Lokalpolitiker warm gehalten wurde wird wieder zu einer aktiven Wählergruppe. :A
Ja, das ist klar. Aber es kommt auch drauf an, wie der Rest von Japan reagiert. Wenn die alle nachziehen, dann sieht es weitaus düsterer aus, als wenn die nicht nachziehen. (Dann denken die in Tokyo, bei genügend Gegenstimmen, vllt noch mal um)Zitat:
Zitat von Ianus
@akito: Dito, finde die Durchführung von dem Kram auch daneben. Hat sich nicht auch der Kerl, der das ganze ins Laufen gebracht hat, auch "leicht" negativ gegen Mangaka ausgelassen. :|
Naja an höchst sonderbare Frisuren hat man sich ja eh gewöhnt. Mich wundert eh dass Judai eine normale Frisur haben durfte. Yugis/Yuseis "etwas" kann man nicht als Frisur durchgehen lassen. Spätestens im Anime im Noah-Arc hätte Yugis Frisur den Bach runtergehen müssen. Oder gabs da einen Supermarkt mit Haargel? ...Zitat:
Zitat von ~Jack~
Naja 5Ds habe ich kaum gesehen, da es kaum Subs gibt und RTL 2 ... Ein Glück dass Staffel von GX verschont wurde und ich diese als Deutsche Fansub vorliegen hab. Meine Güte, das sind Welten. Plötzlich ist die Story richtig düster, man kann sterben und die Namen sind auch nicht allesamgt bescheuert ... Dafür sieht der Finalboss bescheuert aus, aber ey: Der kam indirekt schon ab Staffel 1 vor ^^
Uh, nice!Zitat:
Zitat von Akito
Ich wollte die Filme sowieso mal gucken (obwohl die Novels sucken). Das lass ich mir nicht entgehen :D
Kommentar zum neuen Zensurgesetz aus einem anderen Forum.Zitat:
So... having taken a look at the bill, it doesn't actually seem to affect hentai. At all. All it does is reclassify 90% of current mainstream anime and manga as 'porn', which will lead to the shutdown of mainstream anime over time as creativity is stifled. But in the worst case scenario happens and the anime/manga industry folds entirely, there will be an influx of skilled artists and writers going over the line to doing pornography, because that's where the money is.
Well, just hear me out. The effect of the bill will be to kill things like Shounen Jump, because things like Bleach, One Piece, and Naruto will be reclassified as 18+, and the teenagers who are the target audience won't be able to buy them anymore. BUT. The porn is unaffected because the adults will continue to buy them, right? So that's where the money is going to be, and that's where the creators will be going. When the big studios die and go out of business, all that intellectual property is gonna be up for grabs. We might be looking at a future down the road where all anime is porn, or at least include hentai elements so that the 18+ audience will buy them, since if you're gonna get an 18+ label slapped on your story for having a teenager killing vengeful spirits with a giant sword, you MIGHT AS WELL go all the way and throw in a scene where the teenager gets laid with the loli ghost, too. We've already seen some hints of this trend already happening, what with things like Mnemosyne, which was ostensibly a show about guro, but they threw in a full on sex scene in the last episode for kicks anyway, because they were already on the AT-X channel with an 18+ rating.
Hypothetically speaking, of course. But this is strangely reminding me of when they decided to censor genitals and caused porn to become even more hardcore by creating the pre-public hair (loli) and tentacle fetishes.
Das heist im Schluss das Japan ab jetzt nur noch Porn produziert?
Ich hätte gedacht ich wäre Überrascht darüber, aber ich bin es nicht.
Sowie die direkte Übersetzung klingt, ist das Ausmaß vielleicht gar nicht so groß wie erwartet, denn eigentlich werden in erster Linie nur Inzest und Loli Fanservice "reguliert", Homosexualität ist erlaubt in Japan, also sind Yaoi und Yuri nicht betroffen bspw., sowie die meisten Titel nicht.Zitat:
Zitat von DarkMirage
Den ganzen (wirklich informativen) Artikel gibt es hier.Zitat:
Zitat von DarkMirage
Homosexualität ist durch die Formulierung nicht ausgeschlossen.
Nicht überraschend:
Zitat:
Tokyo’s ban on anime, manga and games featuring “virtual crimes” or which are “likely to interfere with the healthy development of youth” has passed after the DPJ agreed to support it.
This bill however still does not ban actual, "real life" crimes in media such as rape. Books, magazines and other "real life" media are also unaffected by this bill.
The DPJ’s only addition to the critical portion of the law was a short rider which requests “prudent application of the law in light of any artistic, social, scientific or satirical merits the work might express” – it does not however add any legal obligation to consider these, or establish any clear or indepdently enforced criteria for judging whether a work can be declared “harmful” or not.
Even more bizarrely, the final draft actually removed a passage that imposed “a duty not to possess [photographic] child pornography” on Tokyo residents, whilst leaving the section banning erotic manga and anime (and explicitly excluding photographic materials) all but unchanged – that the bill is intended exclusively as an “anti-otaku” law seems to be beyond doubt.
It is very difficult to objectively assess the scope of the law – along with vague and subjective terms like “interfere with the healthy development of youth,” the law also includes “etc.” on the end of most of its examples, leaving it quite unclear, for example, whether the “improper glorification of illegal sexual activity, etc.” applies to only virtual sex crimes, or all crimes in general – presumably the interpretation adopted will be whichever is convenient to censors.
Similarly, the ban’s mention of “rape and other sexual acts which violate societal norms” seems inevitably to point to a ban on depictions of homosexuality, considering who was behind the law.
The generally expected form the law will take is that of a “amakudari” (a pervasive system of sinecures for retired bureaucrats) body which will inspect all anime, manga and games, with only those titles receiving approval as “healthy” able to be sold regularly in Tokyo shops – the rest will be relegated to the “adult corner.”
The most immediate and direct effect of the law will almost certainly be to see ecchi manga such as To Love-Ru, bishoujo titles such as Champion Red and most BL manga, as well as any seinen manga with especially mature themes, banned from general sales – presumably most will then be cancelled due to a lack of suitable magazine or tankobon distribution channels, with a few perhaps being resurrected as 18+ ero-manga.
As has already been seen, publishers will also likely be purging future anime, manga and games of any content liable to fall foul of the law, and removing older titles from distribution.
The law probably also spells the end of most late night anime in Tokyo (and by extension, everywhere else), which it would appear to ban under its distribution clause; given the vague wording of the current season alone it seems Ore no Imouto, Panty & Stocking, Yosuga, Sora no Otoshimono, Milky Holmes and others would all fall foul of its various stipulations.
There is also some doubt as to whether Comiket will be able to be held under the new regulations – if not, its cancellation or removal to another prefecture seems likely, although a lack of sufficiently large spaces may severely complicate this.
The law comes into effect in July of 2011, so with magazine, tankobon, anime and game release schedules being what they are, it seems likely its effects will be felt much sooner; in a genuinely democratic state there might be scope to overturn it before then, but from what has been seen so far it seems unlikely publishers have the guts or savvy to do anything about it.
Tokyo’s ban of anime, manga and games is not even law yet, but already mangaka are reporting publishers refusing to publish works set in schools or featuring school uniforms, with previously published works even in danger of having their reprints cancelled.
BL mangaka Shouko Takaku complains that her (unidentified, but “unfortunately not small”) publisher told her to stop using school trappings in her manga:
I was bluntly told the other day “because of the Tokyo ordinance, please stop using high school students [in your manga].” Depending on the label it seems you can’t even draw school uniforms…”
[...]
Yes, I was really shocked – I was astonished and responded “Really? Really? It’s come to that now already?”
She comments that she expects the industry’s recent decline will only be accelerated by the introduction of the ban.
Another BL mangaka, Kanako Meiji, reports her publisher is considering cancelling a reprint of her works:
What’s going to happen? A new edition of one of my titles was due to be published in April, but now it’s under deliberation, I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s cancelled.
She compares the political precedent the law represents to Japan’s notorious 1925 “Peace Preservation Law,” a law which began Japan’s lurch towards totalitarianism by imposing a prison sentence of up to 10 years on anyone found guilty of threatening the “national character” of Japan.
Japan’s secret police force subsequently became notorious as “thought police,” and later revisions saw the law expanded to cover more types of thought crime and the right of appeal revoked. Only the American invasion saw them abolished.
Then, just as now, a vaguely worded law allowed authorities to intimidate into silence all those they did not lock up directly – a fate which seems likely to befall all publishers of anime, manga and games in Japan.
NIGGGAAA! SIE BANNEN MEIN BL! NIGGGAAAASSS! Glaubt Shintaro denn wirklich, dass ich mir die Graveur DVDs von kleinen dicken Jungs ansehen will oder warum ist die ganze reale CP nicht wirklich betroffen?
hier noch einer:
http://www.japantoday.com/category/n...tent-in-comics
Zitat:
TOKYO —
A Tokyo metropolitan assembly panel passed a controversial bill Monday to toughen regulations on the sale of comics and animations containing depictions of ‘‘extreme’’ sexual acts.
The bill to revise the metropolitan government’s ordinance seeking sound upbringing of youth will likely clear the assembly’s plenary session Wednesday for enactment.
Amid complaints from the publishing industry that the bill could violate freedom of expression and stifle creativity, a clause was added demanding the assembly give consideration to artistic and social expression and apply the ordinance carefully. But the clause will not be legally binding.
Protesting the assembly’s move, a group of 10 major publishers selling comics such as Kodansha Ltd., Shueisha Inc. and Kadokawa Group Publishing Co, issued a statement Friday that they will refuse to take part in the Tokyo International Anime Fair 2011 to be hosted by Tokyo Gov Shintaro Ishihara in March.
The bill calls on publishers to impose self-regulation on the sale of comics and animations containing depictions of rape and other penal offenses and those ‘‘unduly lauding or exaggerating’’ incestuous affairs so that people under the age of 18 cannot purchase or access them.
The bill will designate those that the metropolitan government determines as particularly malicious as ‘‘unhealthy books’’ and ban the publishers from selling them to young people.
The regulations will take effect on July 1 next year, and will not apply to comics and animations released before then.
At Monday’s meeting of the assembly’s general affairs committee, the bill gained approval from members of the Democratic Party of Japan, the Liberal Democratic Party and the New Komeito party, while those of the Japanese Communist Party and another minor caucus opposed it.
The assembly first submitted a bill of similar content in March but was voted down in June due to opposition from publishers as well as criticism by the assembly’s largest caucus—the DPJ—that the scope of its regulations was vague.
The initial bill stated that comics and animations depicting sexual intercourse by characters apparently under the age of 18 would hamper the healthy development of children and must be controlled.
Scheiß doch auf BLNOOO!!!Zitat:
Depending on the label it seems you can’t even draw school uniforms…”
Und verdammt, die Leute werden doch wieder irgendwelche Lücken finden. Erinnert euch nur an Artikel 175.
Leute finden immer irgendwelche Lücken.
Ich denke es ist klar was jetzt gemacht werden muss oder?Zitat:
Zitat von Ianus
Da könnte man mit Kim Jong II bestimmt einen Deal machen, damit er ein bisschen mit seinen neuen Spielsachen spielen darf.