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letztes jahr ist die ECTS ja offensichtlicherweise ausgefallen.
aber was ist dieses jahr?
wann war denn immer?ich meine mich zu erinnern das die immer im september gewesen ist oder so.
und wenn wir schon dabei sind:
gibt es news zur shoshinkai bzw.space world oder wurde die auch eingestampft?
ich bin wohl doch nich mehr so ganz auf dem laufenden.
Ähm, inwiefern? Die hatte doch nie wirklich einen festen Termin. Es gab halt nur das Gerücht dass Nintendo auf einer Spaceworld den Revo/Wii vorstellt, aber das wurde ja bisher alles auf normalen Messen, TGS und E3, präsentiert. Den DS ja afair auch.Zitat:
Zitat von noRkia
na wohl hatte die nen festen termin nämlich immer ende dezember.
ich glaube um den 26 rum.
das letzte mal gabs die messe 2004 oder sogar 2003 oder is es sogar noch länger her ;/
wo aufeinmal die ECTS is weis ich überhauptnicht.
Im Sept. 2004 war die letzte ECTS. Sie wurde imo aufgegen wegen der Konkurrenz der anderen Messen. Gab wohl auf einmal zu viele? Sie war aber immer im Ausgust/September. Früher auch schon zweimal im Jahr (März/April).
Die ECTS wurde so viel ich weiß definitiv aufgegeben,da das Interesse der Publisher immer geringer wurde und die meisten ihre Präsentationen gleich in gegenüberliegende Hotels verlagert hatten. Das musste so ungefähr zum Zeitpunkt der 1. Games Convention gewesen sein. Dann haben die Leutchen die Messe aufgegeben. ;)
Was die Spaceworld von Nintendo angeht, ist es jedes Jahr offen ob sie staffindet, oder nicht. Seitens Nintendo wird da selten viel geredet, ob sie nun kommt oder nicht. Auch die letzten Jahre fand keine Spaceworld statt...und dieses Jahr ist Nintendo nicht mal auf der TGS großartig vertreten.
Zitat:
Zitat von Knuckles
gibts schon ein tgs lineup?
Denke das dauert noch etwas und die GC ist ja auch noch vorher.
Hier aber mal ein kleiner Bereicht über die ChinaJoy. Also wer da mal hin will Finger weg^^
Sehr lustiger Report. Besonder die Stelle mit dem Ticketkaufen^^Zitat:
Originally Posted by Klover @ NeoGAF
ChinaJoy (http://www.chinajoy.net) just closed for the last day here in beautiful Shanghai. Since I haven't seen a single thread about going to the show in the past few days, I can only assume I was the only person from GAF who went.
It was open on July 28th from 9:30AM to 12:00PM for the press and then it was open the rest of the day on the 28th, along with the 29th and 30th for the public.
Long story short, nothing worth talking about came out of the show, and if you do not live in Shanghai and you went... well, I feel sorry for you. If you don't want to read about nothing, go to another thread.
For anyone else who cares, the expo was held at the Shanghai New International Expo Center. It had three buildings in the center taking up 30,000 square meters of space. I took a nice trip on the Metro to the outskirts of the city and it was only about a half of a mile on foot to the expo center.
Warning Sign #1: The first bad sign about the event was the fact that they did not spring for advertising anywhere in the city. I only saw one banner in the Lujiazui Subway station and then tons of MMORPG ads in the subway station nearest the expo center.
I got into the place and they had signs up in English for the press and exhibitors, but if you were visiting, nothing... I can't read Chinese worth crap, so I wandered around asking workers where you buy tickets and no one knew anything. I followed the crowd through a set of doors out to the expo ground and was subsequently chased down by multiple security guards yelling at me in broken english that I needed a tag to get in (but they didn't know where I could get one). I got escorted back into the building and finally asked some Chinese guys where they got their tickets, and one guy drew a map, in pen, on the counter, to a van in the parking lot.
Warning Sign #2: The event was so professional that, to get a ticket, visitors had to find a van in the parking lot with tinted windows, one being slightly opened. A woman was inside the dark van with her sunglasses on. I say in Chinese that I want a ticket at which point she yells for money and disappears into the back of the van. Thankfully 30 seconds later, she came back with my change and a ticket.
Electronic Arts
EA showed off a fantastic portfolio of games that included, all of last year's sports titles, Fight Night Round 3, Need For Speed Most Wanted, The Sims 2, and Pogo. I watched as basically one Chinese person stood at each terminal and played uninterrupted because no one was waiting in line.
SEGA
Sega had a much larger booth than EA, and amazingly had less to show. A big stage in the center with a video screen showed nothing most of the day. An older man and a young girl came out every once and a while to talk about squat. 6 PCs were on one side of the booth playing a crappy PC game, and 6 PCs were on the other side of the booth playing another crappy PC game. Another couple PCs in the back were playing cutting edge software such as Chu Chu Rocket.
Square Enix
Square Enix's booth was strange in that they rented out a wall. They had a long and skinny booth with some game in it. Final Fantasy? Dragon Quest? Nope... Just a couple turn based strategy games for the PC that looked like crap.
Konami
Konami's booth was amazing in that it actually had console games. 10-15 stations were playing a soccer game, two stations were playing an old version of Dance Dance Revolution, and two stations were playing a drum game. Nothing redeeming other than the free hand fans they were giving away, which were nice considering how hot it was in the expo center.
Sony
Sony's booth held the most promise. They had a big black box for a booth with two openings on one side, along with a desk with two girls at it and a box cut inside the booth with a PS3 on display. A security guard would not let people get within a couple feet of the glass box with the PS3 in it.
No one I talked to knew what was inside of the booth, but there was a line around it so I figured I had a shot to play something and stood in line. 30 minutes later, we get inside and it is a freaking empty box. Nothing is inside, but "Playstation 3" is being projected on one of the walls.
A Sony guy came up front and yelled at us to sit down on the floor (To which I'm thinking oh heck no, I don't know what liquids we have all been standing in while we were waiting in line) We sat and watched most of the trailers from E3 on the big screen (including the 15 minute MGS4 trailer). The crowd for some reason was cheering during and after every trailer. The Mobile Suit Gundam and MGS4 trailers got the largest response, though they cheered for EVERY trailer EXCEPT the Genji 2 trailer. The crowd was deadly silent during and after that trailer and only that trailer (Silence was broken by my laughter though). Either way, I waited 30 minutes to watch old trailers for another 30 minutes.
World Of Warcraft
WoW got it's own freaking building at the expo center. So, you have 30,000 square meters broken into 3 buildings and WoW had one entire building, or 1/3 of the floor space. Well, 10% of the building was empty, and another 10% were offices, but the rest was WoW. They had a Coca-Cola WoW booth, a Blizzard WoW booth, WoW carnival type games (like WoW bowling and stinking whack-a-mole). All kinds of crap.
Everything Else
The rest of the show was all tiny Chinese companies making crappy PC games, or MMORPG type games (RF Online, Shaiya, Guild Wars, etc...) Cosplayers were running around in their favorite MMO costumes, and they had a booth dedicated to cosplayers doing a stage show. ATI and nVidia showed off their hardware using PC games that have been available in the US for a while (Like GRAW), and Ageia had a sad little booth between some tiny Chinese companies on the wall. They had four PCs showing off nothing worth talking about. The only game (that wasn't MMO) that I saw that hadn't been released was Splinter Cell: Double Agent for the PC. It was in the CCTV booth (Chinese TV) and I didn't see anything that wasn't shown off before at E3. There still wasn't that many people playing it considering that some of the game takes place in Shanghai and the show was in Shanghai. They didn't appear to have any noise regulations so you could feel you body being hammered from the inside by the extreme volume. Booth babes were all over the place too... whatever, they were more interesting to look at than games that were a couple years old.
Either way, absolutely nothing new and nothing interesting at the entire show. I wasn't living in Shanghai last summer, so I can't compare it to last year's show, but for the organizers to say in the newspapers that "ChinaJoy will be by no means inferior to the US E3 and Japan TGS exhibitions" is a joke. I saw three westerners, but they were all press or exhibitors, so I was the only western looking visitor I saw walking around. Thankfully my expenses for visiting were only a 4 kwai ticket on the subway plus the 30 kwai ticket to get in the door. With the rampant piracy in this country, it is the same old story of companies only releasing mobile phone or online games that they know they can keep track of. Sony showing off PS3 trailers, although depressing and old for a westerner, was exciting for the people over here (well, the rich people here that can actually afford these games) and a step in the right direction for gaming in China. Maybe China will actually be getting something more than crappy PC games and hand-me-down console titles in the future.